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Name:Allt-Fawr [Allt Fawr]
Hill number:2006
Height:698m / 2290ft
RHB Section:30B: Snowdonia
Nuttall/Wainwright area:The Moelwyns
County/UA:Gwynedd (CoU)
Catchment:Conwy, Catchment Boundaries, Glaslyn
Watershed:Cardigan Bay
Class:Marilyn, Hump, Simm, Hewitt, Nuttall,
Buxton & Lewis, Bridge, Clem
(Ma,Hu,Tu,Sim,Hew,N,BL,Bg,Cm)
Grid ref:SH 68174 47463
Summit feature:rocky outcrop
Drop:243m
Col:455m  SH664463  
OS map sheet(s):(1:50k) 115
(1:25k) OL17W
Observations:rock 5m E slightly lower; ground 25m W is about 1.5m lower; ground 110m SW is at least 3m lower
Survey:Abney level
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Logged Descriptions  (logged by 410 users)ByDate of Ascent
Nuttall walk 5.2.noxibis22/06/2019
from Crimea pass.IanHHill26/05/2019
Dromedary Marilyn... Cnicht is its Hump summitvegibagger16/04/2019
From Crimea Pass up the ridge...low cloud but clear summitN.Morters08/04/2019
Crimea Pass, Allt-fawr, Moel Druman, Ysgafell Wen, Ysgafell Wen North Top, Ysgafell Wen Far North Top, Llyn Edno to Moel Meirch. Then back along ridge. Path all the way. Excellent views from ridge, so retracing steps is no hardship.Winterfloodian28/03/2019
Unseasonable fine weather finally over - low cloud coming & going - fog in valleys - some drizzle. Approached from P at Crimea Pass. Grassy path. Some local weather windows. A few blades of rock at summit area (one of which marks the summit). No cairn & no summit views(hill fog). Quite a pleasant atmospheric hill walk.ger28/02/2019
Nuttalll 5.2Dan Baddeley29/09/2018
Another attempt from Crimea pass, this time successful. Intermittent light rain. Raced to the summit against descending clouds, result dead heat, although the clouds subsequently lifted intermittently.Topographer5713/09/2018
Parked at the Crimea Pass and headed up Allt Fawr and Moel Druman. I walked past Ysgafell Wen, despite Mark challenging me. We did the North Top and the Far North Top and then returned to it. Quite a long slog down, following the stream downhill. The river crossing at SH 6834 4952 was not easy and also there was a new barbed wire fence with no style which was a bit of a problem. The last mile and a bit on the track was easy.tsharp13/09/2018
A circular walk which included Moelwyn Mawr. Start point was the car parking area at SH683454.G4OBK (Phil)03/09/2018
From Crimea Pass. Up to ridge then followed ridge to Allt Fawr. Wet to start but improving so some fleeting views from summit. Returned same route. Solo.mike.hoult07/08/2018
soloAimless Rambler08/06/2018
3 day wildcamp in the MoelwynsTaz3803/06/2018
First attempt from slate quarries abandoned after unfounded concern about safety of descending south ridge. Second attempt, from Crimea road pass, abandoned after concern that my tired calf muscles may not make it safely back by nightfall.Topographer5710/05/2018
Moel Dyrnogydd, Iwerddon, Allt Fawr, Craig Nyth-Y-Gigfran, Moel Druman, Ygafell Wen, Ysgafell Wen North Top, Ysgafell Wen far North top, Moel Meirch, Cerrig Cochion and yr Arddu. Parked at Crimea pass. Nice day to start although very cold, Turned wet later on!Alunrees3326/11/2017
As part of Nuttall route 5.2, with Penda, 4h. Nice day, nice hill.beorwulf06/07/2017
From Crimea. 701489.Easy ascent, but cloud on summit spoiled the views.NormanW12/06/2017
Parked on stoney verge at summit of crimea pass. Gate to track (FP) then open hillside. A path materialises after the col with the power lines. Very wet and windy, low cloud. Yukk.Minto11/06/2017
11.2 mile walk from end of Blaenau Dolwyddelan road on sunny day with high cloud, walked up lane through Coed Mawr farm climbing on good track then followed pathless route up onto Yr Arddu followed small trail to summit, pathless route towards Llyn Edno and trail to Moel Meirch summit, headed south back to Llyn Edno and onto Ysgafell Wen North Top and Ysgafell Wen (lovely and grassy), onto Moel Druman and followed easy grassy trails to Allt-Fawr, by this time the cloud started pouring onto the ridge behind us, left Allt-Fawr in a hurry down to Iwerddon on trail and then pathless across to Moel Dyrnogydd, followed lane over Blaenau Tunnel (footpath on map doesn't exist)back to car. Only saw two fisherman at Llyn Dynogydd all day. Very underrated area of Snowdonia. After walk headed home via Mynydd Nodol.DanTrig07/06/2017
A good, short walk from the climber's car park above Tanygrisiau in strong winds and torrential rain. Somehow the slate quarries and the ruins are at their most atmospheric under such conditions. Up through Cwmorthin quarry and steep grass to the col, then up the ridge. We found the top (very nice), and were surprised to find that it really does not have a cairn. Interesting navigation to Rosyth quarry via the lakes and then down the track. The cafe in Blaenau is very sympathetic to soggy hikers dripping onto the floor.Gill17/03/2017
698mThe Grouse10/02/2017
As Moel Dirnogydd.jrj27/01/2017
With Bernard and Sarah on a bright windy day as part of a ridge walk with various NuttallsDenise 16/10/2016
Our second day of Hill Bagging with Richard and DeniseBernard16/10/2016
I huffed and puffed behind Richard, Denise and Bernard.SarahS16/10/2016
Nice little bit of ridge from Moel Druman - on to Moel-y-Hedd.Wycombe Wanderer16/09/2016
Linear route over Allt Fawr and Moelwyn Mawr, starting at Crimea Pass and ending at Tanygrisiau, making some bad route choices on the way. Route and write-up at: http://gayleybird.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/allt-fawr-and-moelwyn-mawr.htmlGayle14/08/2016
Nuttall walkRuth19/03/2016
Nuttall Walk 5.2: Iwerddon - Allt-Fawr - Moel Druman - Ysgafell Wen - Ysgafell Wen North Top - Ysgafell Wen Far North Topronaldo33306/02/2016
A good circular walk from Tanygrisiaujenx16/11/2015
With Jenx in a circuit including both Moelwyns. Parked just off main road at Tanygrisiau. Private road taken to dam, then the Fach, Fawr and into Allt Fawr before easy return to start point.nordicstar16/11/2015
from Crimea Pass. Moel Dyrnogydd, Iwerddon, Allt Fawr, Moel Druman, Ysgafell wen, Moel Meirch, Cerrig Cochion and Yr Arddu. Glorious weather and glorious views!!AlunRees3102/11/2015
From Crimea Pass via Iwerddon, on to Moel Druman, Ysgafell Wen tops and Moel Meirch. Descent to Nantgwynant car park.webmaster16/10/2015
From the top of Crimea Pass and visiting Allt-Fawr, Moel Druman, Ysgafell Wen, Ysgafell Wen North Top and Ysgafell Wen Far North Top.knarf19/01/2015
On own. Nuttalls route 5.2. Return route was a wet slog.Crib Goch13/10/2014
Awesome but challenging linear walk from the top of the Crimea Pass to Pen-y-Gwryd via here and the two remote Dodds. Very definite sense of wilderness and isolation about this route right in the heart of the national park.Twice Shy30/09/2014
The Nuttall 5.2 round from Crimea pass on a very very hot and uncomfortable day. solo.Lou26/07/2014
Parked in the lay-by at the top of the Crimea Pass and followed the route in the Nuttalls book.axe.stephen21/04/2014
Climbed with adjacent Deweys by Nuttalls' route from Bwlch Crimea.jim pererin16/04/2014
From layby on Crimea pass, a round of Iwerddon, Allt Fawr, Moel Druman, Ysgfell Wen and it tops.rhalstead03/11/2013
A DRIZZLY, MISTY DAY SO DECIDED TO FINISH OFF THE MOELWYNS WITH A STRAIGHTFORWARD OUT AND BACK VERSION OF NUTTALLS WALK 5.2. STARTED AT CRIMEA PASS AND FOUND WAY UP TO ALLT FAWR, THEN NAVIGATION BY COMPASS AND GOOD PATH TO MOEL DRUMAN, YSGAFELL WEN, YSGAFELL WEN N. TOP AND YSGAFELL FAR N. TOP. NO VIEWS BUT ONLY VERY FINE RAIN.BURGESS29/08/2013
From Tanygrisiau. Climbed after ascent of Craig Nyth y Gigfran 554m.Man of Kernow118/08/2013
Part of a circular route from the top of the Crimea Pass.JohnStoneham29/06/2013
SMF Trainingmertw95501/05/2013
Paddy Buckley recceGeoff Briggs07/04/2013
Parked at Crimea Pass. Cloudy.bolton23/12/2012
Fine walk over from Moel Penamnen and then along to Moel Meirch. Dropped down to Bryn Gwynant hostel by way of the Afon Llynedno just as darkness fell.Alex C01/11/2012
Quite a nice mountain, the route up from Iwerddon is excellent. Lots of interest on the slopes and fine views in all directions atop.Jake99422/09/2012
From Crimea Pass (SH 70153 48905) - Iwerddon - Allt Fawr - Moel Druman - Ysgafell Wen - Ysgafell Wen North Top - Ysgafell Wen Far North Top - Yr Arddu.david23020106/11/2011
With Andy from Iwerddonmick30/07/2011
hot and sunny very boggy on descentskeletonjo23/07/2011
Wild camp day 2 - Yr Arddu, Moel Meirchfellowsa08/05/2011
As Nuttall walk 5.2, which has great views.mindlessflogger24/04/2011
Done as part of a twelve-Nuttall route from Croesor. Earlier mist cleared as we had lunch at the summit, giving good but hazy views.davidpettit8426/03/2011
Croesor - Cnicht - N Top - Ysgafell Wen (3 tops) - Moel Druman - Allt-fawr - Moelwyn Mawr N Top - Moelwyn Mawr - Craigysgafn - Moelwyn Bach - Croesor. A fantastic long walk for Nuttall-baggers done on a beautiful dayMark Jackson26/03/2011
Lay-by near top of Crimea Pass – Up ridge to Allt-fawr – Moel Druman – Ysgafell Wen - Ysgafell Wen North Top - Ysgafell Wen Far North Top – Dropped down and headed for Quarry tip – Picked up track from tip back to road. (JL)gerrybowes08/02/2011
Near a fenceline.. not alot here but a nice summit with some goods views, Anice route back to the road via Llyn Iwerddon.Mc Tango06/11/2010
In a contrived circuit from near Blaenau Ffestiniog. Craigysgafna is the gem and unexpected too. Later on, it is more of a slog but the slate quarries provide interest.SS02/10/2010
6thand last peak of the day, from Croesor. Nice to get it after abanoning first attempt due to snow storm! Back past Llyn Conglog and Llyn Cwm Corsiog, past the barracks, and down the incline into Croesor. Views down this valley are superb.huwthomas30/09/2010
From Crimea Pass on warm morning following Nuttall route. Getting windier with rain due by early afternoon.Dugswell222/09/2010
Very very windyjohnjennison28/04/2010
Revisit date. First date not recorded. RHW07/03/2010
Circular walk from Croesor taking in Cnicht, Ysgafell Wen, Moel Druman, Allt Fawr, Moel-yr-Hydd, Moelwyn Mawr, Craigysgafn, Moelwyn Bach.Flipperfeet20/07/2009
Not real date - no log kept. Allt Fawr, Moel Druman, Ysgafell Wen (and north top and far north top)ijpowell10/07/2009
Another of my local regular walks. Estimate 1st ascent from Cwmorthin (above). Multiple ascents from Crimea Pass, N of my home town Blaenau Ffestiniog, since then.Dewi Prysor06/06/2009
Spent time thinking about my ancestors who worked in the mines on these hills.Father Ted24/05/2009
Part of Nuttall round from car park at summit of Crimea Pass on A470 (SH 70160 48937)David Gradwell19/04/2009
From Moelwyn Mawr N through quarries to top of pass, then with some scrambling up ridge to summit plateau, past Llyn Conglog to summit. Down SE ridge then SW descent to quarries and back to car (14:40) dbb28/03/2009
Did Nuttall route. Sunny but cold due to the wind. Lovely views sitting in the sheltered bowl at the top.Dave the Bard21/03/2009
From Crimea Pass. Summit a little rocky ridge with cairn. No views from here, misty.Aye Jimmy23/12/2008
A landscape sculptured by slate quarry This hill was a straight forward walk from the northeast along a ridge that had good views of quarries - if that is what you like The top was a good vantage pointChinnockC30/05/2008
after overnight at Llyn Tyrfyn SH668479grahameb23/05/2008
from cnicht and Moel Druman and onto wild camp above quarry and below Moelwynsemily28/08/2007
Came up to bag a geocache/waymark.nolan28/07/2007
an interesting loop over some of the lesser hills of the moelwyns.. looking at the map a natural horseshoe was evident, most of the going underfoot was pretty easy, though it was pathless in places and a bit of routefinding nescessary, all in all though astig_nest02/06/2007
From Crimea Pass and on to the rest of the ridge.signyred27/04/2007
Easter Sunday with, Robert, Ken, Kev S,SteveClay08/04/2007
easy bnut longish climb after an early startgigglejon14/02/2007
Another ascent to rekindle my love of the Moelwyns.thenomad10/01/2007
Good visibility was essential and I had been prepared to head to these hills almost every day for a fortnight. Finally the wet December weather relented and the cloud rose to a level above these summits, though the higher mountains of Snowdonia remained hidden. Starting from the Crimea Pass the path climbed between charming lakes, with one breathtaking moment as I looked back from high above the bell-shaped Llyn Ffridd-y-bwlch. The first summit was quickly gainedpeter4lc16/12/2006
SOTA activationIan G7KXV21/10/2006
With TonyStuart Hyde22/07/2006
and Moelwyn Mawr, with Richard richardsun15/04/2006
With: hb sb ab; We parked at summit of Crimea Pass and walked along the ridge W then SW to Iwerddon; Allt Fawr; Moel Drummon and all of Ysgafell Wen returning by a similar route. Good views all day.Ian Baines18/02/2006
Started from Tanygrisiau and climbed up through slate workings at the southern end of Llyn Cwmorthin. Did both Moel Druman and Allt Fawr but in thick cloud.Herbert Anchovy31/12/2005
Walk: 5.2. With: Nigel Cater. Notes: From Rydd Dhu mixed weather, cross streamdchill0120/09/2003
KeithByTheC07/06/2003
Clockwise round of The Moelwyns, Cricht to Moelwyn Bach.Eddie02/09/2002
Bagged all 12 in epic session.PeteF23/06/2002
climbed as part of route 5.2 in the guide bookdianepick04/04/2002
From the Crimea Pass.Marshsand28/09/2001
Ascended twice on return ridge route.glbrookes04/08/2001
From Crimea Pass car park, with dadJamesD197222/02/2001
Galltywenallt22/08/1999
Revisit with Denise, Bernard and Sarah. Great views.RichardM06/03/1999
Solo walk. First of 11 tops done in thick mist.mikejacobs13/06/1998
My Paddy Buckley RoundRHW19/07/1997
GMGMTIdris13/05/1997
Approx date, Allt Fawr, Moel DrumanFred Windsor24/05/1996
First time on the summits between Moelwyn Mawr and Cnicht, which Pete and I ascended first, from Croesor. A Nuttalls-based walk; both Ysgafell Wen tops, Moel Druman, and after the Ma, Moel yr Hydd before we returned via Croesor quarries (now remains). As always in this area, a fascinating, often complex and very appealing walk. Fine weather, cloud lifting from Snowdon about 1600 hrs.pwheeler22/07/1995
twelfth ascent?thenomad12/10/1992
Easy Climb from the top of the Crimea PassRhayader_wander08/06/1991
petey01/01/1990
Date unknown RHW01/01/1990
At least ten ascents up until June 1990thenomad01/07/1986
from top of A470 road. Plod over grass to ridge, above a lake to right. Under a power line and up onto snow. Steps from a day or so ago. Kicked steps up to top at 11.40. to M Drumanarranc03/04/1986
Ascended after climbing Cnicht and Moel Druman.JohnW28/10/1985
Welsh Classic/Padddy Buckley 24 hour challengepetesimpson08/05/1985
From Croesor, a round of Cnicht, North top, Moel Druman and Allt Fawr in icy conditions.PeterD18/02/1985
College tripTonyandsue15/02/1985
A quick paced 3 and half hour circuit climbing 6 Bridge 2000 ft tops whilst Liz read in the tent at Llyn Adar.Next skirted south of Llyn Conglog down craggy ground to old quarry ruins and up Moel yr hydd.Chris Pearson07/08/1984
Blisco01/01/1980
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