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Name:Rhobell Fawr
Hill number:2059
Height:734m / 2408ft
RHB Section:30D: Barmouth to Betws-y-Coed and Bala
Nuttall/Wainwright area:The Arenigs
County/UA:Gwynedd (CoU)
Catchment:Mawddach
Class:Marilyn, Hump, Simm, Hewitt, Nuttall,
Buxton & Lewis, Bridge, Trail 100
(Ma,Hu,Tu,Sim,Hew,N,BL,Bg,T100)
Grid ref:SH 78683 25668
Summit feature:trig point
Drop:309m
Col:425m  SH823286  
OS map sheet(s):(1:50k) 124
(1:25k) OL23E
Survey:obvious summit
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Park at Cwm allt y lwyd bend 788282,Rhobell y big, Rhobell ganol, Rhobell Fawr, Rhobell fawr west top descend down faint path near wall east to plantation track, down track 600m 797249 then use ride which has easy path SE to to ride going SE to Moel Caer defaid west top, Craig y Benglog. then straight walk to Ddualt cross stream at 80702 25400 ground surprisingly dry. decent from Ddualt N fenceline to ford. Old posts and mesh scattered causing trip hazardunderhill17/11/2018
13.2 mile walk from gated road south, parked in unfenced field at the side of road walked west to Ffridd Carmel farm and along grassy footpath to road north of Llanfachreth followed road to end ascending Bwlch Goriwared, short heathery climb onto Cerniau then followed nice gradual path onto Rhobell Fawr, arrived 3 minutes before the cloud did so got a quick glimpse of the view. We left summit quickly and took wrong path north when we wanted to head east, after a 20 min diversion including climbing down a rockface we descended to the forest below Dduallt, followed the clear firebreaks through to opposite side of forest and made our own rough route up to Dduallt, descended the same way but via a swamp this time back past forest (a lot has been felled) and followed good lane SW back to where we parked. Apart from the cloud coming down on Rhobell Fawr, the rest of the day was fine with high cloud, great views, saw 3 people all day, all on Rhobell Fawr.DanTrig29/09/2018
From Car Park next to Llanfachreth School - Lane to Bryn y blew - Turn left uphill and followed lane to Bwlch Goriwared then styal takes onto the open mountain. followed wall to summit and trig. Returned the same way. After a break for tea and cake in Dolgellau we returned to Pinnacle walk car park but turned the other way to explore the tracks and lanes towards Bryn y blew and Llanfachreth. An impressive quiet area.briandavies23/09/2018
With RH & PJRob Pen y Garn08/04/2018
5/7 (Carnedd lago/Cerniau/Moel Cors-y-Garnedd/Cynefin Bryn Blew(Rhobell Fawr West Top)/Rhobell Fawr/Rhobell Ganol/Rhobell-y-Big)Fergalh10/03/2018
From North crossing frozen bog in bright sunshine.willias24/02/2018
Rhobell Fawr Fell Race 1:07 up and downrhif704/11/2017
With Val. Heavy showers. From Llanfachreth.Lanes then bridleway. Wall to East of path was followed to summit. Returned same route.mike.hoult08/09/2017
past the Aran Hall school to the sheepfold, follow the track to the right until a fingerpost y ddualt, through the gate on the left and follow the atv tracks, no signs to say you can't drive into the forestbardolph18/08/2017
Followed the route in the Nuttalls book from Cwm yr Allt-lwyd. Maybe I'm getting to be a scaredy cat in my old age but I didn't fancy the ford, even though there hadn't been any rain recently. I walked upstream a little to where the stream splits and that was much easier to do and I kept my shoes dry. The other obstacle of the day, the forest, was pretty easy. Weather was glorious so good views all around.tsharp04/06/2017
from the track follow the fence to the style and trig. on descent near rhobell y big the maps show a path. that path DOES not exisit . go back to track or as per book to descend the hillAristotle Chip26/05/2017
walk up from RhydmainNozzer30/04/2017
Exactly as David Gradwell --thanks for tip re forest.Crib Goch10/04/2017
Walked up from minor road to the north. Paths don't seem to exist much on the ground. Returned via forest track. Very wet!wozzat10/03/2017
KeithByTheC30/12/2016
From Llanfachreth taking row, track and path to Rhobell Fawr after diversion to Cerniau, then descended and climbed Rhobell Ganol. From there it was over rough wet ground to Rhobell-y-big before dropping down to Afon Ceirw which was crossed at the wall which neatly took that out of play. The forest tracks to outward route.SS26/12/2016
A very easy and pleasant stroll from Llanfachreth school on a nice grassy bridleway, then on the old road to Ffynnon Shon, and over various lumps and bumps to the summit. Amazingly dry going on grassy paths, with wonderful views.Gill27/11/2016
Nuttall route + two Deweys. Parked on rough grassy area at SH 78827 29232 beside track that leaves road at sharp bend. Ddaullt > Rhobell Fawr > Cynefin Bryn Blew [Rhobell Fawr West Top] > Rhobell Ganol > Rhobell-y-big. Went through forest using straight firebreak that starts at SH 80385 25697. Make sure you keep going directly west through this firebreak and don't drift off south. The terrain is difficult at first but gets a lot better as long as you keep heading west.David Gradwell24/08/2016
From LlanfachrethRuth25/03/2016
From Duallt on Nutall routeMark Sims25/03/2016
A dry window in the weather. Boggy approach.jonathanwilliam07/02/2016
Quickly up and down from forest road in twilight and mist. Recent felling, but all quiet today.jenx30/12/2015
With Jenx. Drove up into forest to SE of summit. Three gates, no signs indicating access prohibited so continued. Logging operations suspended for festive period. Road not good. Ascended in end of day gloom direct through broken craggy steep ground without difficulty. Two walls to negotiate both with ladder stiles. On descent followed wall line all the way to road at GR 7981525501 where room to park off the road, at the moment anyway.nordicstar30/12/2015
From Cwm-Hasgen a round of Rhobell-y-big, Rhobell Ganol, Rhobell Fawr, Moel Cae'r-defaid West Top, Craig y Benglog, Dduallt and Ffridd yr Allt-llwyd.rhalstead22/11/2015
Very wet day and extremely wet underfoot!Hammy06/11/2015
With Steve and Frank on a bright but chilly day. nuttall route 6.3 with a few minor tops added. All the Arenig Nuttalls now summitted.Lou27/09/2015
With Steve and Lindsay on a fine day visiting Dduallt, Rhobell Fawr, Rhobell Fawr West Top, Rhobell Ganol and Rhobell-y-big.knarf27/09/2015
Parked the car at the junction at 797249. Gated road up past Aran Hall School. Nice day but when I got to the top it was windy and cloud intermittently covering it Then went back to the car to have lunch and then went on to climb Ddualltjohnjennison10/09/2015
Start from Buchesydd, easy ascent in good weather up the track around to the eastern flank along the recently felled forest. Route from the forest road is steep but straightforward. Descended the same way.PeteEdwards17/08/2015
quick walk in mist and rain from OL23 798255Dewi Prysor05/06/2015
Superb circular from Llanfachreth.Neolith24/05/2015
Nuttall walk 6.3: Dduallt - Rhobell Fawr - Cynefin Bryn Blew - Rhobell Ganol - Rhobell y bigronaldo33326/04/2015
From Llanfachreth car park (next to the school at SH756225). Leaving the byway on the Bwlch Goriwared (SH7646324584) a trodden line took us up to summit. Route and write-up at: http://gayleybird.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/rhobell-fawr-and-craig-y-castell.htmlGayle31/12/2014
/from ddualt tried a different forestry approach through fire break, so many trees down had to find way out of forest by following some yellow orienteering tape, poor view from top walk out a bit boggygeoffreybbb06/12/2014
With Caroline and Barrynickywood109/10/2014
From Cwm Hasgen via Dduallt. Worth having a clear day for the Mignient, a magical and wild part of Wales. Plenty of trees down in forestry between two peaks, so a fair bit of ducking and diving.MattM21/09/2014
From Rhydymain. Great walk with excellent views all round Blackberry picking as well Lakesgirl14/09/2014
Together with Dduallt,hard going on pathless terrain. Luckily it was quite dry. Started from Pont Fronwydd on the A494.Emlyno12/09/2014
With Phil. From the south - no problems. A fine rocky hill (from the S) with great viewsclimbingkershaw02/09/2014
Continuation of walk from Rhobell Ganol. Walked down to boggy bwlch (better going on west side of fence), then up to join wall heading along summit ridge. Then over ladder stile to summit. To descend, headed north-east to forest edge, then over fence onto forest road. Took this north. At a yellow marker post indicating route of bridleway I decided to continue on the forest road, reckoning it would be easier going. This was a bad mistake. After about a kilometre I found the route totally blocked be a huge tree-fall, which necessitated a wide diversion round through a bog and stream. Yet more tree-falls blocked the route further on. Near Cwm yr Allt-lwyd the forest road petered out, and I was forced to descend through a felled tree area and a difficult crossing of the Nant y Helyg in a little gorge to reach the track in the cwm. Not a route I'd recommend!marktrengove24/08/2014
Family walked, met only 1 person on route. Fabulous views across mid & north Wales!simonjallen20/08/2014
RATHER THAN FOLLOW THE NUTTALLS WALK 6.3 WE DROVE UP THE STEEP LANE FROM NEAR RHYDYMAIN AND ALONG THE FOREST ROAD TO WHERE THE BYWAY BECOMES A BRIDLEWAY. VERY WET THROUGH THE FOREST RIDES AND BESIDE THE FOREST AS IT HAD RAINED HEAVILY IN THE NIGHT BUT GENERALLY EASY ASCENT. RETURNED BY SAME ROUTE AND UP AND BACK RHOBELL FAWR FOLLOWING THE WALLS.BURGESS09/08/2013
Good, lonely walk from Dduallt.bolton07/07/2013
eyenose30/06/2013
Extended version of Nuttalls' route, with Ruth. Cwm yr Allt-lwyd - Ffridd yr Allt-lwyd - Dduallt - Rhobell Fawr - Rhobell Ganol - Rhobell-y-big - Cwm yr Allt-lwyddavidpettit8406/05/2013
From Ddualt. Follow Nuttall's instructions and walk up to the path through rather than trying to penetrate the forest directly.clivevilla25/10/2012
Accessed from the road end at SN 766234 by walking north along the metalled track to the newly rebuilt sheepfold and then following the wall all the way to the summit. An easy walk.Marshsand06/09/2012
With Martin Phillips and the four dogs, Excellent Weather. Drove up through gated road in Martin's Discovery. 4 miles, no paths. Fabulous MountainJamesey10/08/2012
From Llanfachreth (SH 75628 22524) - Bwlch Goriwared - Rhobell Fawr West Top - Rhobell Fawr - Dduallt. Steep descent from Rhobell Fawr to Ty-newydd-y-mynydd. From there out-and-back leg to Dduallt through and around forested area. Obvious path through forest, occasionally boggy; mostly pathless once clear of forest. Excellent track from Ty-newydd-y-mynydd back to Llanfachreth.david23020101/04/2012
With: hb; We followed the track over Bwlch Gorowared then headed NE for Rhobell Fawr ridge. Visited W top then summit and descended NE to hit track just as it enters wood. Lots of rain!Ian Baines10/03/2012
Rhobell Fawr - unaware of the unclassified West Top so did not include it.ijpowell08/03/2012
Excellent views from the summit.JohnStoneham14/11/2011
LDWA: One of our more exciting river crossings!ruthatlast28/08/2011
My final Welsh Nuttall! Wet weather coming from Dduallt, but there is a good route through the Forest starting at 805259. Rain and clouds cleared to give some great views from the top. Awesome.huwthomas20/08/2011
End of road in Cwm yr Allt-lwyd – Along farm track – Cross Afon Mawddach to deserted Allt-lwyd farm – Ford at head of Afon Mawddach – Up N. Ridge of Dduallt – Dduallt – South ridge and through forest – Up eastern side Rhobell Fawr – Rhobell Fawr – North over rough ground back to farm track – Back to car. (JL)gerrybowes03/05/2011
As Nuttall walk 6.3. Remote and quiet, just how we like it.mindlessflogger25/04/2011
Walked up from Penrhos Isaf specifically to come and see the trig pillar. Poor views today, but a fine hill nonetheless.Alex C01/02/2011
Pathless, rocky terrain. Walk in through forest. Mist over Dduallt.Will_Barnes31/12/2010
from Rhydymain village, via farm paths (not good) and onto forest track. fog at 600m and a quiet summit trig. Descent back more direct, but equally boggy and unclear around farmsemily07/08/2010
with pendabeorwulf01/07/2010
Walked up from South through forest track. Followed route given in trail magazine. Bouldery ascent and descent. Warm day.Phoenix17/04/2010
Trig pillarwebmaster09/09/2009
Tarmac forestry rd continues further than on map. Left car at 794246 (11:40), walked to 792247 on tracks then in mist and drizzle by compass directly up hillside over grass and rocks and over a high wall to top. Return by same route; car 13:15. dbb04/08/2009
From minor road to S. Steady ascent over grass and craglets, keeping a wood well to the R. Near top is stile over wall. Dumpy stone built trig on top. Lower summit not far away.Aye Jimmy22/06/2009
Climbed as part of routre 6.3dianepick08/04/2009
Start ~ 788293. From Rhobell Ganol, with Wombourne.steve hudson24/02/2009
With YDTGeoff Briggs24/01/2009
Snowy conditions 2 hrs 35 mins 5.5 milesClachaig29/10/2008
Approached from SE having parked on grass verge just after first gate. Very enjoyable ascent from forest track. Cairn a couple of meters from trig.Father Ted13/09/2008
Parked at SH 7885 2921 We did Nuttall walk 6.3 Stone built trig pillar marks the top. A nice secluded area although when summited we were greeted by a local walking group of about 40 people! Due to all the rain it was a bit boggy in placesSteveClay24/08/2008
a bit of a cross country route as i parked in an odd place - windy day and on top it was hard to get to the trig pointgreendave02/03/2008
a wild camp on the banks of the infant afon mawddach then a loop over dduallt and rhobell fawr, some squelchy bits underfoot but a fabulous walk all the samestig_nest10/04/2007
Painless climb from sheepfold at end of minor road to the SE. Flush bracket seems OK to me - reads BM 11940 !! Shame no views today; happy 100th birthday to AW tomorrow.signyred16/01/2007
Parked on road junction to S. Followed track to E of hill then followed fence to summit. Returned due S then met up with track again to E.robphys16/12/2006
SOTA activationIan G7KXV14/08/2006
With TonyStuart Hyde22/07/2006
With Richard and Jenny richardsun19/03/2006
Trig revisit. Been here many times as is on Meirionnydd RoundRHW18/12/2005
From Dduallt I dropped down gradually towards the forest – the shortest route involving least re-ascent would pass through incredibly dense woodland and was not an option. Instead a path follows the side of the forest downhill to a corner where there is a stile into the woods and a vague track. A tree had fallen across and was impossible to climb over, while circumventing it involved virtually crawling with no guarantee I would find the path again. I did though, and then the trees opened out at a firebreak. Suddenly there was the welcome sight of a broad forest road. Here I passed a forestry vehicle – the only human contact since the farmers. The ascent to Rhobell Fawr steeply follows a wall for some 800 feet, once or twice through rocky sections where hands are needed to haul oneself up, and finally the trig point is seen over to the left, reached by a stroll over short grass. The descent was the hardest part, through bog and heather.peter4lc11/07/2005
date approx - exact date forgotten but I've been heregigglejon08/08/2002
From Rhohball Fawr to the north through lank heather. The forest track through the valley would probably be better. On to Dduallt but another fight through forest - would have been better around.Eddie12/10/2001
Third ascent.thenomad08/07/2000
Galltywenallt12/02/2000
GGIdris06/12/1998
excellent hill & summit, wide view. Pont Rhyd-y-fen to Pont Fronwydd RHW29/11/1998
Solo run. Third of four routes today. Great views form the summit.mikejacobs03/10/1998
Climbed with Dduallt.marktrengove23/06/1998
Second ascent. From the north.thenomad26/06/1997
A wonderful rough solo run circuit of Rhobell Fawr and Ddualt and Deweys 500m tops- form south having dropped L off at Chester for a lacrosse match and collected her later then up to Kendal.Chris Pearson05/10/1996
First ascent.thenomad13/01/1992
petey01/01/1990
Single top on first visit from the S. Normally combine with Ddualt now and prefer S to Northern Nutall approach as its a much shorter drive for meRhayader_wander30/10/1988
From Llanfachreth. Pleasant approach through farm lands on WDP through a wood to bwylch. Over a stone wall and steady approach up on grass to top at 14.25arranc08/04/1988
Ddualt and Rhobell Fawr from the SouthPeterD24/05/1987
From Dduallt, a great mountain but this wasn't its best side and the going was frustratingly rough through the conifer forest. Then, from Ty newydd y mynydd, up through high pastures, interesting terrain with little knolls and crags to Rhobell Fawr. Descent over a SW Top and over Bwlch Goriwared to Blaen y Glyn. Must have run back along the road as my log says 25 mins! The car was at Cwm yr allt-lwyd, ca. 5km away.pwheeler25/04/1987
Walked from Trawsfynydd to ascend. Descended to Dolgellau.JohnW29/10/1985
Several times - first time probably early 1990s. Preferred ascent from SH 767 232.summitsupblank
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