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Name:Y Garn
Hill number:2073
Height:629m / 2064ft
RHB Section:30D: Barmouth to Betws-y-Coed and Bala
Nuttall/Wainwright area:The Rhinogs
County/UA:Gwynedd
Catchment:Mawddach
Class:Marilyn, Hump, Simm, Hewitt, Nuttall,
Buxton & Lewis, Bridge, Clem
(Ma,Hu,Tu,Sim,Hew,N,BL,Bg,Cm)
Grid ref:SH 70276 23030
Summit feature:cairn
Drop:315m
Col:314m  SH680242  
OS map sheet(s):(1:50k) 124
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  • Height given as 620m in Nuttalls book

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Logged Descriptions  (logged by 428 users)ByDate of Ascent
Parked at the free carpark opposite Ganllwyd. A detour to visit the Black waterfalls then through the Nature reserve, past the old gold mines and up to Y Garn. Terrific views.Peterb25/11/2023
With Deborah.Donpeblo30/07/2023
8 miles 1500ft walk ,start at Ganllwyd NT carpark. to Y Garn.stephenbuda03/07/2023
From small parking at end of minor road from Llanelltyd (few hundred yards after Cae-gwernog farmhouse). Four miles up and down. Good path & track to ridge and summit. Nice start to the day before later rain on Moel Ysgyfarnogod and Foel Penolau.Lazylizzie25/06/2023
With Pete. Circuit from Blaen-y-cam road endjef25/03/2023
Started from the free car park, went up past the chapel and passed the fantastic waterfalls, we continued up passed the old gold mines and up to the ridge, from here we continued up to the top but unfortunately the fog came down at about 500m and we were unable to see anything at the top. A tricky route to come down in the fog but we eventually found the path and got back safely. Walk was about 6.5 miles, 4 hrs, 2000ft in ascent.Buckleymon21/02/2023
Did this route https://explore.osmaps.com/route/3167520/rhinog-y-garn-rhaeder-ddu?lat=52.796396&lon=-3.926480&zoom=13.2113&style=Leisure&type=2d&overlays=&placesCategory=. Couldn't follow the last section as the forestry has all been cut down, so followed the track back to Ganllwyd.andrewroberts19/02/2023
Ascent as per Nuttall walk 9.3 and descent via the same way for ease of route finding in the snow. With R, first December Nuttall and 50th of 2022.Dan Baddeley11/12/2022
Clear, cold and steep.Mosey21/11/2022
Park at end of minor road. Up through for3st via Tump. Then rough moor and waterlogged path to summit. Escaped worst of weather with thunder over Rhinnogs and Cader idris. Back to car via trig pillar to Swcjo15/10/2022
1/3 from S.davechaffey15/10/2022
From parking area by public loos in Ganllwyd (SH 7268 2435). Good track initially, then just made it up as we went along. On JW's final Welsh Marilyn walk, in dreich weather.jonglew14/10/2022
On JW’s last Welsh Marilyn walk.Alan Caine14/10/2022
Pass the chapel and use the right of way sign! Quicker onto hill. Glad Gmac and I made it before cloud came rolling over the hill. Views in every direction spectacularelizyanne15/07/2022
Car got ill, misfiring, so sought early morning garage who's take a look at it. All busy but left it with one to SW. So had to walk all way from central Dolgellau. Main road NW then up minor road to the east and eventually to summit by about 1pm Down via trig pillar at southern end of ridge where ground then drops steeply. Down tracks through wood but one track I took that assumed went all way down to road started to disappear lower down and got into denser difficult troubling terrain, which I had to gingerly pick my way through, eventually to the main road. Irritating end to the afternoon.vegibagger13/06/2022
started from NT car park in Ganllwyd. good path to summit, then winged it down other side - very difficult terrain. Finally made it to track and had pleasant walk around the lake.gbeniston04/06/2022
Walk/runhaydnw23/04/2022
A mid-day start after Allt-Fawr in the morning. From road end at Blaen-y-cwm, ample parking for two, perhaps three cars and a turning area.. On track/permissive path to SW which continues beyond where it ends on the map to zigzag all the way to the ridge then a good path to the impressive cairn on the summit. If you get the line right, gates and/or stiles all the way, no walls to climb. Good going makes it quicker than you would expect. My 150th of the 150 Welsh Simms!dickscroop21/01/2022
Lovely walk on a fine day from Llanelltyd. Started off on New Precipice Walk then over Foel Ispri to follow the south ridge. Easy route, every wall crossed by stile or gate. The sun came out as we were on the summit, magnificent views of the southern Rhinogydd, Cader Idris and the Arans. Descended via the same way initially before dropping southeast down to Ty'n y Llwyn then Cwm Wnin - ended up walking back to Dolgellau to avoid long wait for next bus. A great first Rhinogydd summit.thesweetcheat07/11/2021
Straightforward from Ganllwyd free NT carpark and then SW through nature reserve (failing to follow the blue/ green marks) and to the Gold Mines and then up on sheep pasture to summit (two walls). Could not find bolt under cairn but did not want to destroy the cairn too much. Continued to Myndd Glan-llyn-y-Forwyn over rough terrain.Denise 08/10/2021
GMmaryjdavies12/09/2020
Bagging this straggler whilst having a weekend away with the family.simocity22/08/2020
First find of the day. Climbed up via mine and then cut down onto track towards Pont y Brenhin. Part of 26 mile route from Ganllwyd. Y Garn - Rhinog Fach - Y Llethr - Diffwysmeltdiceburg30/07/2020
629mThe Grouse09/07/2020
Hotel closed down today. One last blast before an uncertain future. Parked on minor road in Cwm Mynnach (near Ty-n-y-coed) - Road then forestry track up east side of the Cwm to beyond Blean-cwm-Mynnach. Followed footpath through cleared forestry (old homestead uncovered) to open mountain beyond. We then meander ever upwards through the Rhinog landscape to Craig -Y-Merched with its lake then the summit of Y Garn - (found OS rivet on detached block of concrete - buried in summit cairn for safe keeping) - a few other walkers we wave distantly to each other as we pass - descent via Foel Ddu - Moel Feol Isaf - New Precipice the road back down in the valley to the car - home and who knows what next.briandavies22/03/2020
From Ty’n-Y-Groes Hotel. Up the road into forest and to old mine workings, following the track along the line of mines with very apt gold topped poles. Then in thick mist used the path along walls to open ground and summit. Limited breaks with views in mist.N.Morters24/01/2020
Ty'n y Groes Hotel - Y Garn via gold mine - Cesailgwm - Penmaenpool - Dol Gledr - Craig y Castell - Craig y Castell (Marilyn) - Bryn-y-gwin - Dolgellau.Mark Jackson28/08/2019
From SE starting at road end near Blaen y cwm, narrow and steep road but parking OK. Permissive track passes above Tyn Lwyn then continues west to gate before turning north up to the south ridge. There is a well built wall along the ridge, stay on east side as far as stile at 473m then west side as far as last stile at 584m. Nice pointed summit with sea views west and full view of Cadair Idris above Dolgellau to south.Topographer5726/08/2019
From Ganllwyd via 7138824200. A helpful farmer showed me the metal gate and path which lead up to a hole in the wall at 7111924106. Then following a wall up, and a wall to cross before the summit. Rather hot today.NormanW15/07/2019
from Ganllwyd via Gold mine and NE ridge.IanHHill29/05/2019
The start and path are easy to find but watch for the path through the wood. There are faint sheep tracks to follow but aim for the wall and you will follow a path up on it's right hand side.you cross the stile and make for the summit marked by an upright stone. We followed the route as per book back to the start. It is steep in parts but easily navigatedAristotle Chip27/05/2019
From Ganllwyd car park via National Trust paths, Cefn Coch gold mines and eastern flank.Winterfloodian31/03/2019
Ascent of Yr Garn from Ganllwyd to complete ascent of all the Rhinogs.knarf15/11/2018
Visibility poor. Overshot where I should have been following the wall parallel to the crags and hence had to climb over a couple of walls. Met farmer who pointed me in the right direction after I assured him I hadn't damaged his wall.Longwojo17/10/2018
From NT CP at Ganllwyd. SW following blue then green route to old mine - (possibly best to pass mine building on a grassy track) more or less following Nuttall's route. Nice hill with good summit views.ger29/09/2018
SOTAmike.hartley29/09/2018
1/4 Marilyn day. Y Garn from Ganllwyd. 6km with 600m ascent in 1h45m. (S)silveracorn_alan23/09/2018
From the Cefn Coch gold mines. Go initially south, pass tidy house, stay on the miners track which loops north along ridge. You pas two mine entrances and 3 opening gates and a ladder style. No walls or gates need to be cloned if you go the right way. Impressive 360 views including Snowden and Berwyns on a sunny and clear day. NNick Caunt22/06/2018
First of 3 with MegHarrismiles 10/06/2018
Followed the Nuttall's route with Xander. Walls not too bad - there were normally handily placed holes or, if not, they could be climbed quite easily. Took five hours in total which wasn't bad at 8 year old pace and including about 1.5 hours of stoppages for lunch and snacks.Herbert Anchovy30/05/2018
Looks like damaged Platform Bolt (OS) under cairn. One witness rivet survives.Dusty11/05/2018
From Cwm yr Wnin above Llanelltyd, parked below Blaen-y-Cwm. Up the track to Ty'n y Llwyn which continues up to the S ridge with gates and/or stiles at all the wall crossings. The last stile towards the top of the hill is easy to miss. A pleasant walk, and wonderful views of the Rhinogs, Cadair and Snowdon from the top. Basking in the sun admiring it all for at least 20 minutes.Gill20/04/2018
welshe24/02/2018
A difficult walk in poor conditionsS4m49812/12/2017
3/4 (Mynydd Ceiswyn/Waun-Oer/Y Garn/Uwch Mynydd)Fergalh05/11/2017
Start from Tin Church GanllwydPeteEdwards02/09/2017
Mad dash off here via Bryniau Glo to catch the bus from near Ganllwyd. Don't know how I managed it, but did so with just a couple of minutes to spare.Twice Shy01/09/2017
#629 From Ganllwyd via Blue & Green walks to the gold mines then onto open hill. Walls not a problem, first is 'stepoverable', second has a hole at 71263 22876, and the third has a step style at 70969 23091.tim74709/06/2017
with GKatyT14/05/2017
With Katy. Sunny.George Thompson14/05/2017
With Val. Parked on lane that runs up Cwm yr Wnin. Walked to end of road at entrance to Blaen-y-Cwm. Took permissive path towards Ty'n-y-Llwyn then track onto ridge . An easy walk to summit along ridge with gates or stiles over walls. Very windy but clear with good viewsmike.hoult05/05/2017
With MikeVal Deisler05/05/2017
Lovely Xmas walk with LynfaRob Pen y Garn27/12/2016
With Rob Nuttals route. Walls!Lynfa Penygarn27/12/2016
Sunny, windy day. Wet underfoot. Used Nuttall route, route up easy enough but following the route down complicated by lack of crossing points for the wall below the summit. Ended up retracing my steps, progress hampered by a heavy Labrador lacking in agility!robgarbett32926/12/2016
Tried getting thru forest to ascend via ridge, not a good idea, eventually retreated to go up past gold minegeoffreybbb30/11/2016
From Ganllwyd Village car park SH 727 244Westdenewalker08/10/2016
With G. Nuttalls' route from GanllwydRT197015/08/2016
Hit as part of a route from Trawsfynydd to Llanelltyd over Moel Ysgyfarnogo, Rhing Fawr, Rhing Fach, Y Llethyr, Diffwys and Y Garn. Two days, wild camped on east shore of Llyn Hywelandrew.morel28/07/2016
Part of Vegan ultra very foggyLykewake4218/06/2016
Nuttall Walk WN 9.3 Y Garn from Ganllwyd. 8km with 600m ascent in 3 hours. (S)silveracorn_alan27/03/2016
sort of Nuttalls route from Ganiwild but up their descent route. Hint Once out of the woods follow tracks to goldmines to SE. Much easier than thrashing through bracken, following burn. Lovely spacious summit.Thearlaichdubh18/09/2015
Nutall walk up getting late so back same way, walls at top now have barbed wire, watch boggy groundunderhill06/09/2015
Hideous weather. Via Nuttall route.Ruth27/07/2015
From Tyddyn Bach cottage. Track to woods and top of lane at GR. Old farm track and up field to corner of wall (fallen down). Direct up to top wall line and stile. Easy rigde / quad track most of way. After final stile filliw the line to summit. No bolt visible at cairn. Back more direct to farm in Eastward direction. With Jenx and Andy D, Paul R and Adrian.nordicstar28/06/2015
Nuttall walk 9.3: Y Garnronaldo33326/05/2015
From Llanelltyd, via a bit of the New Precipice Walk. Route and write-up at: http://gayleybird.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/y-garn-rhinogau-and-foel-offrwm.htmlGayle30/12/2014
As per the Nuttall walk. No parking issues, stiles are well disguised.JohnStoneham10/11/2014
Nuttalls' route from Ganllwydjim pererin05/11/2014
From Ganllywd.lenman01/09/2014
34stod196228/08/2014
Followed Nutall route. Good afternoon walk stayed dry. Good views although distant mountains lost in haze.axe.stephen30/05/2014
Ardurous ascent up from Ganllwyd but without complications.Alex C03/04/2014
DECAMPED FROM BALA ON A SHOWERY DAY AND DID THIS ONE ON THE WAY TO SET UP CAMP AT HARLECH. GOOD WEATHER AND VIEWS ALL THE WAY AND INTERESTING ASCENT PAST GOLD MINE BUT ROUGH AND OVERGROWN LAST SECTION OF DESCENT TO FOREST AS PER NUTTALLS WALK 9.3BURGESS12/08/2013
WITH JON, ABOUT 3 HOURStallblond28/07/2013
CUHWC Dolgellau (Torrent Bunk Barn) Trip. Long solo linear walk from Cwm Nantcol - Rhinog Fach - Y Llethr - Diffwys - Diffwys W Top - Diffwys - Y Garn - Blaen-y-cwm - Llanelltyd - Dolgellau - Bunkhouse. T-shirt weather! An epic day. Y Garn ascent from the west can best be described as horrific.AGWilliamson02/03/2013
Nuttall's route up but, as previous poster had difficulty with their route down, just went back down the same way I'd gone up.clivevilla18/11/2012
start ganllwyd 727 243 no access problems good views just over 4 hoursGraham18/11/2012
NT car park in Ganllwyd on A470, 4m N of Dolgellau – Road & then path to Waterfall – Track/paths through woods to mines – Up W. slopes to the summit of Y Garn – Reverse. (JL,PM)gerrybowes14/11/2012
With John and Gerry. Cloudy.bolton14/11/2012
Pleasant shorter walk starting in old woodland, past waterfalls and rapids. Cloudy, tops in mist. With G. Bowes ans P. Massey.John L14/11/2012
Steep climb past waterfalls. No track. Got lost!Stephenfarmer01/11/2012
staying at Barmouth for the weekend , climbed with sharon, on a windy but dry day.Lou14/10/2012
Parked near end of minor road at SH 71345 21655. Took track to Ty’n-y-Llwyn. Bypass this house via track to right. At end of track climb up to ridge then good path to summit with stiles/gates at all wall crossings.David Gradwell20/08/2012
Rhaiadr Falls, Y Garnijpowell18/08/2012
On own from Ganllwyd.Crib Goch17/07/2012
Following Nuttall's book description, i got a bit lost on the way down, and headed too far North....the going was rough, steep and eventually i had to walk through about half a mile of deforested area which was extremely difficult, almost impenetrable, in order to get on to a forestry track to get back to Ganllwyd......be very careful on the way down if you follow the North-East route described in the book.JEASHTON12/07/2012
Bontddu - Mynydd Egryn - Craig-y-Grut - Diffwys West Top - Diffwys - Y Garn - Bontddu. Paths through forest were indistinct and ascent of Y Garn from the west very rough.davidpettit8406/05/2012
Solo192125/10/2011
From Ganllwyd Village car park SH 727 244Westdenewalker18/09/2011
LOST - NUTTALL BOOK, NR SUMMIT. Please contact if found.jonathanwilliam01/06/2011
My last Rhinog. Up through the mines to SE - a few false summits on the way - and down to the North and back through the forest.huwthomas01/08/2010
OtisGlenford13/06/2010
As Nuttall walk 9.3. I didn't find gold at the mine so we flogged on.mindlessflogger11/06/2010
I think them walls have got higher since the Nutall book was written. Have sheep got stilts around here?. Lost my map and map case on way down. Second time in a year.Father Ted08/11/2009
A tough one if you don't find the path. Go up by the mines at the top and where the walls meet go thro' one wall and follow the other up to a ladder stile. This is the way I came down. I went up through the rough and it aint easy.johnjennison06/09/2009
Fine day. Fr car at 683218 (9:15) track for about 1k. Hill v overgrown; tried to asc direct thr forest; not poss; took unmarked track E side of vall to 686231; marked path not found. Once above forest waded through thick vegetation to top. Cont Y Llethr dbb02/08/2009
With Chris and TonyStuart Hyde25/07/2009
As Nuttall route on an improving afternoon. The walls can take some crossing, so found an easier way down via 2 stifle to Blaem-Y-Cwm and then thro wood on footpath to gold mines to return to start.Dugswell220/06/2009
From Ganllwyd to E, past old gold mine. Interesting engineering at gate near mine. There is an OS bolt by summit cairn.Aye Jimmy02/06/2009
climbed directly from the car park at Ganllwyd, smashing little summitdianepick10/04/2009
Followed the Nuttalls walk, wet day, falls impressive in full flow.rhalstead31/07/2008
KeithByTheC11/05/2008
Parked at SH714216 headed to Foel Ddu then along the ridge to summit Y Garn. A lovely day and end to our Rhinog mission, descended same route, great weekend. Walked with KenSteveClay05/05/2008
parked at the bridge over the mynach between bontddu and dolgellau. followed forrestry paths up the majority of this hill, view spoilt by misty conditions.stig_nest15/05/2007
Nice waterfall, geocache and rare clapper stile on the way to the top from the main road.signyred27/04/2007
Parked to SE then came up through Blaen y Cwm and followed node to ridge then to top. Good summit with great views of Rhinogs.robphys08/10/2006
CK, club SheilaS26/08/2006
The first part of the walk from Ganllwyd is through woodland and is very difficult to navigate, so I was indebted to the Nuttalls’ directions. Not sure why there is such a long diversion at the start, though. Far quicker to start by the footpath to the south of the brook, rather than the metalled road to the north, which goes in a large circle to join the Cefn Coch path. After three quarters of an hour I was finally on open hillside, passing the old gold-mine buildings on a good track which nevertheless seemed to be leading in the wrong direction. Eventually an old incline was joined, which threaded through the disused mines and spoil heaps, and I climbed over rough grass to the ridge. A stile had been erected – formerly there was none and it was a case of clambering over a high, sturdy wall, so I was relieved to see it. Ponderous climb from here over rocky outcrops to the summit cairnpeter4lc28/06/2006
From Ganllwyd.Marshsand17/05/2006
topgigglejon12/04/2006
With Kathie, from Ganllwydrichardsun18/02/2006
With: solo; I parked close to Coed y Brenin. This was a two day circular route through the Rhinogs. I walked though forest to Aber Eden then on the path from Rhaeadr Ddu through the gold mine on to E ridge of Y Garn. Lovely route up and good view from topIan Baines21/09/2002
Up and down over Carn Fach from Cesailgwm.Eddie13/10/2001
Beautiful walk up past waterfalls.ruthatlast20/11/2000
solo walk using nuttall walk 9.3Woolly Hattie09/08/2000
Galltywenallt15/08/1999
Climbed on a hot day. Struggled back via Coed y Brenin.Man of Kernow125/05/1999
Solo run late in the day. Arrived at the summit to see the sun set over the Rhinogs and Irish Sea. Brilliant.mikejacobs03/10/1998
Start ~ 727245, Ganlwyd. Followed path up through woods and then the Nant Las stream to the ridge before heading W to the summit. With J Dummelow.steve hudson15/08/1998
RB Richard Tait10/05/1998
Third ascent.thenomad03/05/1998
GMGMTIdris29/05/1997
GMGMTmaryjdavies29/05/1997
From Maestry fer. Solved what my notes describe as a 'footpath puzzle' and enjoyed the S. ridge and a good summit with a mountain feel about it. I considered going on to Diffwys but it looked a unattractive moorland slog so instead went over Garn Fach, pastures, sylvan beauty over access land then utter confusion trying to follow paths down to Ty'n-y-coed. Very cloudy with E wind which allowed shafts of sunlight and the cloud to lift off most Rhinogydd summits; very grey any further E. NB the New Precipice walk on the SE flanks is fabulous.pwheeler19/03/1997
Second ascent.thenomad02/10/1996
Ascended from Cwm yr Wnin to the south but care needed with the walls.JohnW07/08/1996
First climbed from SW and linked with Diffws to clear a few missing tops. Usually from the east but most recent from due south and returning via Foel IspriRhayader_wander24/08/1991
petey01/01/1990
Date unknown RHW01/01/1990
First ascent, probably when leading a group of Junior Soldiers when i was an instructor.thenomad25/09/1988
From end of road in Cwym yr Whin. On track to cottage and up over grass through sheep pastures over two stone walls to ridge. Gentle plod over grass on faint path to top. at 10.45.arranc22/03/1987
first ascent estimate above, during a YOMP eventDewi Prysor18/05/1985
Sun beating down as I arrived in Dolgellau off bus for 4 days solo walk (with a 20lb pack)across the Welsh hills. Great to be out after finishing final Uni exams. Long walk up lanes and confusion of paths to gain south ridge -not helped by using a black & white copy of map nor a barking farm dog which drove me a different way.Ridge wall led delightfully up rock and grass to neat small summit. Good views of rolling hills all around & dramatic cut out shapes of Rhinogs. After descending south used toll bridge (2p!) to get to Kings hostelChris Pearson09/06/1984
Ian and SarahRob Rees09/02/1983
Easy run up through woods and over barbwire and wall.PeteF17/12/1974
From SH 689 197. Probably 1995ish.summitsupblank
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