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Name:Esgair Ddu
Hill number:2173
Height:464m / 1522ft
RHB Section:31A: Aberystwyth to Welshpool
Nuttall/Wainwright area:Cadair Idris
County/UA:Powys (CoU)
Catchment:Dovey
Class:Marilyn, Hump, Tump (400-499m)
(Ma,Hu,Tu,4)
Grid ref:SH 87328 10645
Summit feature:no feature
Drop:222m
Col:242m  SH891083  
OS map sheet(s):(1:50k) 124 125
(1:25k) OL23E
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Logged Descriptions  (logged by 128 users, only the latest 50 shown - Show all)ByDate of Ascent
Approach from approx 893105 (P over a ford). 1:25K map incredibly does not show a couple of useful tracks which are better to follow than the mapped ROWs. Lots of pheasants about.ger26/09/2018
With: hb; Parked easily by roadside at SH893108. Followed bridle track over bridge up to Craig For ruined farm, then up valley of Nant Ffordd-mawn to ridge above. Easy route across bog direct to summit then across to wood by trigpoint. Returned along fence then down ridge N to rejoin outward path.Ian Baines15/03/2018
A good, interesting walk up the bridleway, a vehicle track alongside the river to Craig-For, a ruined farm, and then a grassy path up the steep hillside beyond, easy going and good views. Somewhat boggy above. Alex C engineered a visit to the trig on the pretext of avoiding the bogs, and then across to the summit. No need to avoid the bogs, they are pretty much OK if you walk on the reeds.Gill17/02/2018
Standard ascent up on the track to the east. Feels very much like a little visited area. Very enjoyable hill to round the day out with.Alex C17/02/2018
From the east as described by others then across bog.Lionel Bidwell29/10/2017
Like a previous bagger I had the cockerel alarm call at the Dinas Mawddwy camp site. Parked to the east then up track disturbing loads of pheasants. Gets steep after the abandoned farmhouse. Lots of sheep so dog on lead whole time. Red kite hunting above farm fields then barn owl in wood at top were the highlights along with excellent views. Did trig point first then up to the high point after cutting through narrow section of wood.Father Ted13/08/2017
2/7 (Mynydd y Cemmaes/Esgair Ddu/Moel Eiddew/Mynydd Waun Fawr/Disgwylfa/Moel Bentrych/Galt Yr Ancr)Fergalh05/08/2017
With Trefor. Parked at ford to the east. Direct route up, looped to the north on the way down. Pheasants by the thousand. Weather fine. My 100th Welsh Marilyn.mike.hoult13/10/2016
From east as others Nice walk apart from the last pathless bog trot to the summit Great viewsMark Sims26/07/2016
trudge up to and around the forestry from east. WHAT A VIEW!!! from Plynlimon to Aran Benllyn! the Tarrens look superb from here. trig in vgc. The transit to the summit was by far the worst bit of the walk. I opted to pretty much straight line it from trig to top. Passing through the narrow bit of forestry wasnt too bad but coming out the other side I was greeted with my nemesis.. tussocky reedy and obvious soggy as hell. A few moments of shin deep squelching and then onto more solid ground for the unmarked summit. 1230 (80 mins ascent including trig visit). Descent back to track just below old farm which was partially pathless. Enjoyed it far more than I thought I was going to.stig_nest14/02/2016
Pleasant walk up from the East via the trig. Red Kites in abundance.jenx13/11/2015
With Jenx from narrow lane to east. Parked in small space at GR893105. No need for the ford pre-mentioned - bridge over river. Then lane to old farm, left at junction and interesting track up hill to crest over the top. Out to trig via woods edge and then to the stated summit, a poorer top. Back same way in two hours.nordicstar13/11/2015
From Cwm Llinau (plenty of room to park van at SH84953308002). Route and write-up at: http://gayleybird.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/a-short-week-in-wales-tuesday.htmlGayle13/10/2015
My 100th Welsh Marilyn. Difficult to park on A470, so parked on the B road towards Aberangell. A lovely quiet walk, mostly on a wide track/path, with good views of Cadair and the Aran.huwthomas29/08/2015
Parked at 893106. Friendly farmer. An easy one and a half hour return walk with GB.bolton12/05/2015
Parked on minor road alongside ford at 893106 Over bridge & followed good track to farm buildings Up faint zigzag track to plateau & then approximately 400m across trackless moor to unmarked summit. (PM)gerrybowes12/05/2015
After a frosty camp at Dinas Mawddwy (cockerel alarm clock was no extra charge)we parked at Bleanplwyf Uchaf on the A470. Walked up the ROW to the coll and then NE to the grassy summit. A cold clear sunny windless morning with the sheep in the farm giving birth to lambs.mindlessflogger22/03/2015
Another fine little Marilyn, they just keep coming!thenomad21/05/2013
SH8732810647Anton23/04/2013
Ascended from the east side like most hillbaggers up the farm access track but found that at the junction to Craig-For farmhouse I could go right and left onto a newer access track that traversed the north side of the stream to 881111. From there it was eM0YDH20/04/2012
petey04/10/2011
Parked by bridge at 893106 (13:00). Walked up farm track, disturbing hundreds of pheasants, then followed path past old workings to plateau. Cross-country to unmarked top. Fine, windy day. Back to car 14:45.dbb10/10/2010
Family used to have a caravan at Bryn uchel isaf and I'd walked the bridleway years ago to 'do' Davies' Mountain, now adorned with wind turbines. If only I'd turned left then it would have saved me the trek today! Dull but painless describes this one!signyred20/06/2010
Park beside ford then used sleeper bridge to walk up farmland track from east. Direct ascent of hillside before track turns towards farm buildings. Lovely warm afternoon, wall to wall sunshine.Dugswell217/04/2010
From Bryn-glas on snow covered track initially.Eddie24/02/2010
From the east. Slightly unnerving as I walked through a pheasant shoot. I ended up on the 460m hill just south as paths are a bit confusing. Nice hike but no definite spot as summit.clivevilla22/10/2009
Alan, Otis. Linda and DagnesGlenford09/08/2009
From E, very unexciting. Summit a bit vague too, took a stone in the grass as being 'it'. Walked back skirting the wood, and visited trig on Llechwedd Mawr.Aye Jimmy02/06/2009
From East pleasant walk.destaylor12/05/2009
drove most of the way up and made a dash for the summitDARRENG16/02/2008
up from cwm llinau then along the cemmaes ridge with the wind turbinesgigglejon22/10/2007
Parked @ end of road in Cwm Llinau and followed RoW up to below trig, then straight up steeply to trig, then across to top. Scared s**tless by F15s low level flying only 200m above head - god they're loud. Saw no one. Good hill.robphys30/05/2006
petey17/10/2003
Galltywenallt01/06/2003
My last Welsh Marilyn. With Arran. Uphill on road through chalets to a farm road and on track over ford for a mile to the last gate leading onto open moor. Steeply up for 300' over short grass. Over 2 fences to column 8511. Over swamp to final lank grass dome and the top at 11.15. No cairn. Skylarks. Hazy views to Plumlummon, Caher, Y Gribin and Pen y Bryn, Aran Fawddwy and Carnedd Wen.arranc30/03/2002
6 marilyns in a day, incl a few that gave a good hike / jog incl this one that needed a bit of a hike from east up path.Chris Pearson13/06/1999
pleasant excursion, grassy mainly dry hill. glan yr afon 893106, thru forest, clockwise RHW31/01/1999
K Cambrian Way trig point climbedcrazy06/06/1996
From SH 89340 10560. 2005?summitsupblank
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