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Name:Y Groes Fagl
Hill number:2107
Height:659m / 2162ft
Parent (Ma):19413  Foel Cedig
RHB Section:30E: Bala to Welshpool
Nuttall/Wainwright area:The Berwyns
County/UA:Gwynedd
Catchment:Catchment Boundaries, Dee (Flint), Severn
Watershed:Severn Estuary, Cardiff to Cape Wrath, Liverpool Bay
Class:Nuttall, Bridge
(N,Bg)
Grid ref:SH 98852 29006
Summit feature:ground 3m S of pole
Drop:15.5m
Col:643.5m  SH 9882 2876  
OS map sheet(s):(1:50k) 125
(1:25k) 255
Observations:ground 20m N and 20m S about 30cm lower
Survey:Leica NA730/Trimble GeoXH 6000
Survey of Y Groes Fagl.pdf
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Logged Descriptions  (logged by 322 users, only the latest 50 shown - Show all)ByDate of Ascent
Third Nuttall of the day, easy going at this point using the forestry track....things were about to get a lot tougher.simocity15/10/2023
Walk 7.5KatyT12/05/2023
With: solo; Nuttalls walk 7.5. Good dry day with light wind and high cloudIan Baines09/10/2022
Updated Nuttall 7.5 from Bwlch yr Hwch: Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd (Trum y Gwrgedd), Foel y Geifr, Pen y Cerrig Duon, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog North Top, Cefn Gwyntog, Cefn Gwyntog Far North Top, Foel Cedig and Y Groes Fagl. Haxy, dull day, so there weren't even good views to distract from the relentless trudge through heather.Lazylizzie03/09/2022
8th and last mountain of the day, again keeping to the track, you can clearly see a 6ft post on the top, as you come to a left bend where a path goes to the right, follow this right path for about 150 yards to find the top. Come back to the track and follow this through the forest back to where you started. This was approx. 3 mile walk.Buckleymon15/08/2022
Although an insignificant top, probably the best view of the group because Snowdon isn't impeded by other peaks in front of it.Nick Canute05/03/2022
Cwm Hirnant road - Foel Goch - Trum y Gwragedd - Foel y Geifr - Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw - Stac Rhos - Cefn Gwyntog - Cefn Gwyntog N Top - Cefn Gwyntog Far N Top - Foel Cedig - Y Groes Fagl - Cwm Hirnant road.Mark Jackson24/10/2021
https://www.strava.com/activities/6146021730/overviewrhif721/10/2021
https://www.strava.com/activities/5914433314Sleepwa1ker03/09/2021
Circular 13.7 mile route of serious heather bashing from Aber-Hirnant Picnic area. Foel Goch, Trum y Gwregedd, Foel y Geifr, Pen Cerrig Duon Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Foel Cedig, Bwlch y Groes-fagl and Foel-y-ddinas. The intial very steep ascent to Foel Goch from the road should not be underestimated!Gwastadros12/06/2021
From Hirnant Pass to W, using good track. Y Groes Fagl, Cefn Gwyntog, Stac Rhos, Pen y Cerrig Duon.PGCE04/02/2021
Rain, rain, rain! A walk out along the track, picking off tops on the way out and back. With B and R.jenx17/12/2020
Two day hillbagging and wildcamp trip from Hirnant pass.Taz3806/08/2019
from quarry hirnant then nutall route inc foel cedig and deleted nutalls and other minor tops back through penllyn forest 9 hrsunderhill24/05/2019
From Bala to Lake Vyrnwy Road SH94604 27326, via Pen y Cerrig Duon, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog North Top, Cefn Gwyntog & Cyrniau Nod, Then onto, Foel Credig. Return via mountain track.Westdenewalker29/04/2019
12th and final summit of the day then took a wrong turning after Ystrad-Y-groes cottage as if the day wasn't tough enough 14.7 miles in total solocolinfielding28/02/2019
29km circuit from Pennant with jonglew, starting with 497m P5 Pen Cerrig, my final summit on John Gillham's list and a nice hill, on a dreich day. Then tussocky to Fagl's fencepost summit, and on to the two SubDodds to the NWRHW24/11/2018
From Foel Cedig, pausing for sandwiches en-route. Back along track to car, meeting Gill and Alex C on the way.Wycombe Wanderer24/11/2018
With SG from parking at start of track from SW.Smudge24/11/2018
With Trefor. Parked to west at top of pass and followed track firstly to Foel Cedig then on to bag this one. Snow showers and lying snow. Cold with low cloud base and no views except for one short break in the cloudsmike.hoult21/11/2018
A selection of Berwyns in company of (for some) Lindsay. Tops I completed were Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Foel Cedig and Y Groes Fagl.knarf14/10/2018
Revisited Y Groes Fagl while claiming Foel Cedig from Hirnant Pass as the new Marilyn in this area. 13km in 3 hours.silveracorn_alan25/09/2018
Foel Cedig > Y Groes Fagl > Trum y Sarn > Cyrniau Nod > Cyrniau Nod South-East Top > Cyrniau Nod > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw SW Top > Pen y Cerrig Duon from GR: SH 94614 27328ronaldo33322/09/2018
Foel Cedig > Y Groes Fagl > Trum y Sarn > Cyrniau Nod > Cyrniau Nod South-East Top > Cyrniau Nod > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw SW Top > Pen y Cerrig Duon from GR: SH 94614 27328Hippster22/09/2018
Did the Berwyns last year so just wanted to visit the newly promoted Foel Cedig. Parked the car at SH 95240 29987, walked along the road South to the track at SH 94627 27327 and then followed the track all the way back to the car. Also stopped off at Y Groes Fagl as it's the easiest of the other tops. Really wet today.tsharp14/09/2018
From Hirnant Pass to W, using good track. Foel Cedig (shortly after assuming the Marilyn summit status - probably didn't visit 19 years previously when climbing Cyrniau Nod), Y Groes Fagl, then Stac Rhos on return.RobertP02/09/2018
From summit of Bala road: Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw / Stac Rhos / Y Groes Fagl / Cyrniau Nod / Cefn Gwyntog. Then: Foel y Geifr / Trum y Gwragedd / Foel Goch. Sunny.Winterfloodian26/07/2018
Followed the Nuttall's route. Lovely sunny day with a nice cool breeze.Herbert Anchovy23/06/2018
No 5 of a round of hills based on Nuttall 7.5. Glad to see this one as the heather bashing was beginning to tell! Return to start down track. A good day out.MichaelF24/11/2017
5/11 (Pen Y Cerrig Duon/Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw/Stac Rhos/Cyrniau Nod/Y Groes Fagl/Penllyn Forest Top/Foel y Geifir/Cefn Gwyntog North Top/Cefn Gwyntog/Garreg Wen/Rhwngy Ddwynant)Fergalh17/06/2017
a round of mainly Nuttalls from The Hirmant Pass, 7.5, solo, on a blustery dayLou11/06/2017
Walked the route in section 7.5 of the Nuttalls book. Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd, Foel y Geifr , Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Cyrniau Nod, Y Groes Fagl. People call these the boring Berwyns but I don't agree. How many of the hundreds of thousands who climb Snowdon and Cader Idris each year would persevere with this walk. It's a real challenge and there are some good views if the weather holds. A very steep descent to Foel Goch reminded me how unfit I've become. Great views at the top, could see Arenig Fawr, Aran Fawddy and Snowdon in the distance inbetween the snow showers. The summit of Trum y Gwragedd was tantalisingly 40 foot on the other side of a barb wire fence. I decided not to be a purist but as I walked on the guilt gnawed at me and, 200 metres later at a corner post, I decided to leave my backpack, cross over and go back to the summit. My gloves and trousers already had holes in them and I'm not sure I'd have risked it if I had been wearing new exptsharp21/03/2017
with rogerDarren-44318/02/2017
Solo walk during a weekend trip to Llangollen for a friend's Birthday. Aber Hirnant - Foel Cwm-Sian Llwyd - along ridge via all Nuttalls to Pen y Cerrig Duon - road - Foel y Geifr - north along ridge - steep descent by forest to road - road back to Aber Hirnant. A rather dull and heathery set of hills!AGWilliamson18/12/2016
With G. Mostly Nuttalls' Route from cattle grid at Bwlch yr Hwch > Foel Goch > Trum y Gwrgedd > Foel y Geifr > Pen y Cerrig Duon > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw > Stac Rhos > Cefn Gwyntog (faint path from gate near Cefn Gwyntog N Top) > Cefn Gwyntog North Top > Cyrniau Nod > Y Groes Fagl > start via Cwm GwynRT197017/08/2016
KeithByTheC30/07/2016
Climbed with Chris from Llangynog via Foel Cwm-Sian Llwyd. Continued on forestry track to road.dhbond16/07/2016
Solo From Cyrniau and on to Penllyn Forrest top 551Aimless Rambler29/05/2016
Cyrniau Nod, Y Groes Fagl, Stac Rhos, Pen y Bocyn Trefielw, Pen y Cerrig Duon.tim74720/04/2016
Nuttalls walk 7.5. 8th out of 8 for the day, before the long walk down through the forest.Crib Goch13/04/2016
Nuttall Walk WN 7.5 The Western Berwyns from the foot of Hirnant Pass (952300), visiting Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd, Foel y Geifr, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Cyrniau Nod and Y Groes Fagl. 18.4km with 850m asecnt in 6H30m. (S)silveracorn_alan30/03/2016
With Cyrniau Nod and Jenxnordicstar28/12/2015
Nuttall Walk 7.5: Foel Goch [The Berwyns] - Trum y Gwragedd - Foel y Geifr - Pen y Cerrig Duon - Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw SW Top - Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw - Stac Rhos - Cefn Gwyntog North Top - Cefn Gwyntog - Cyrniau Nod - Y Groes Faglronaldo33314/06/2015
gweler log Cyrniau Nod see Cyrniau Nod logDewi Prysor19/04/2015
cross the fence get back to the road follow it till you get to the junction on the track and follow to the top then back to the track to follow the track through the forestAristotle Chip11/04/2015
Blessed pathRuth09/09/2014
Followed the Nuttalls route apart from Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Cyrniau Nod all done as out and back from the track. Each with a handy cairn to indicate where to leave the track. Latter part of the day it poured with rain and cloud came down.axe.stephen28/05/2014
From top of Bwlch Hirnant, calling at the other 4 on the way. This was a beauty, and the weather was perfect for clarity of views. Back along the track to get home in time for tea! (rechecking the summit of Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw on the way).ruthatlast26/05/2014
Followed Nuttalls Western Berwyns walk with a few additions.rhalstead16/03/2014
MAINLY FOLLOWED NUTTALLS WALK 7.5 FOR THE WESTERN BERWYNS. PARKED AT THE FOOT OF THE HIRNANT PASS AND WENT STRAIGHT UP VERY STEEP FOEL GOCH, THEN EASY WALK ALONG THE RIDGE TO TRUM Y GWRAGEDD AND FOEL Y GEIFR. STEEP HEATHER DOWN TO TOP OF PASS THEN ALONG THE TRACK, POPPING OFF IT TO DO PEN Y BONCYN TREFEILW AND STAC RHOS. RETURNED TO TRACK BETWEEN ALL TOPS AND FOUND FAINT PATH OUT TO CEFN GWYNTOG. FOLLOWED FENCE TO CIRNIAU NOD AND FINISHED WITH THE EASY GROES FAGL. BACK THROUGH FOREST TO CAR - ANOTHER WARM SUNNY DAY OUT FROM BALA.BURGESS08/08/2013