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Name:Foel Fras
Hill number:3454
Height:528.7m / 1735ft
Parent (Ma):2166  Banc Llechwedd-mawr
RHB Section:31A: Aberystwyth to Welshpool
Nuttall/Wainwright area:Central Wales - Pumlumon
County/UA:Powys
Catchment:Dovey, Catchment Boundaries, Rheidol
Class:Dodd (500-599m), Dewey, Clem
(Tu,5,Dew,Cm)
Grid ref:SN 76548 92610
Summit feature:no feature
Drop:67.6m
Col:461.1m  SN 7645 9367  
OS map sheet(s):(1:50k) 135
(1:25k) OL23W 215W
Survey:Abney level/Trimble GeoXH 6000
Comments:Replaced by 3456 (Pen y Darren, SN764942) as Hump September 2014
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Logged Descriptions  (logged by 75 users, only the latest 50 shown - Show all)ByDate of Ascent
Pen y Darren (Moel Hyddgen) > Foel Las > Foel Grafiau West Top > Foel Grafiau > Foel Uchaf > Foel Fra > Creigiau Bwlch Hyddgen West Top > Creigiau Bwlch Hyddgen West Top frim GR: SN 77726 95826. Parking is really difficult where Glyndwr's Way hits the road but with Permission. parking in the farm yard of Talbontdrain which is a B&B (the husband is a member of the local MRT)ronaldo33325/11/2023
Pen y Darren (Moel Hyddgen) > Foel Las > Foel Grafiau West Top > Foel Grafiau > Foel Uchaf > Foel Fra > Creigiau Bwlch Hyddgen West Top > Creigiau Bwlch Hyddgen West Top frim GR: SN 77726 95826. Parking is really difficult where Glyndwr's Way hits the road but with Permission. parking in the farm yard of Talbontdrain which is a B&B (the husband is a member of the local MRT)Hippster25/11/2023
Talbontdrain (parking:778954)- Pen yr Allt-fawr- Glyndwr's Way- old drovers' road- 767942 (S. of stream)- Pen y Darren, then SW over moorland pasture to gate from which we followed a forest road over moorland round to the E of Foel Fras. Easy ascent from the track. With Petepwheeler13/09/2023
From parking area near memorial above Nant y Moch, followed track round to Nant y Baracs farm buildings and atv track almost to Drosgol summit. Descended NE to FB now shown on 1:25k map, and picked up another atv track shortly after starting to ascend Banc Llechwedd-mawr just before isolated house with solar panels. Circuit continued with N descent on obvious path through bog to Hyddgen, then to Bryn Moel, Foel Fras and Foel Grafiau. Picked up empty beer/pop cans on latter, perhaps left by those who created the wide, scarring biker tracks on the west side of the hill? Returned to car SW through woods.richard6920/10/2022
An anticlockwise circuit of 8 Deweys from 723909, generally following GB's detailed guidance, but with deviations onto an additional 7 nearby minor peaks. Mostly easy going on grass and forest tracks in a nice remote area, but some tussocky areas. Visited summits in the following order: Banc yr Wyn, Foel Grafiau West Top, Foel Grafiau, Foel Uchaf, Foel Fras, Creigiau Bwlch Hyddgen, Pen y Darren, Pen Creigiau'r Llan North Top, Pen Creigiau'r Llan, Esgair Fraith, Banc Bwlchygarreg East Top, Banc Bwlchygarreg, Moel y llyn, Banc Bwlchygarreg West Top, and Bryn Maw (after dropping the rucksack in the car). A total distance of 24 km, with 1050m ascent, taking 8 hours.silveracorn_alan10/04/2022
Parked at 779954 for a circuit of 10 Tumps. Tracks and sheep paths, plus a fair amount of pathless terrain. 8/10PGCE13/08/2021
From NNW, P SE of Talbontdrain, #3 of 5. Revisit en route to Craig LasRHW12/06/2021
HP on levelish tussocky sheep pasture under low gray cloud. Continued via good track to Pen Y Darren.Denise 15/05/2021
6th summit on clockwise round of 7 Tumps starting with Clipyn Du and ending on Pen y Darren. An excellent walk in wild and remote country. Terrain generally OK with some good tracks to help one along.RichardM15/05/2021
from foel grafia on to pen y darrenunderhill01/03/2021
From Cwmyrhaiadr along track to join Glyndwr's Way. Picked up the Deweys north and south and the two Subdodds. Galltywenallt05/03/2020
Car at 778951. Via forestry trails and BWMoorponder19/10/2018
Fourth of seven Dewey's on a walk of around 20 miles from the memorial west of Drosgol taking seven and a half hours. Route first took in Drosgol, Banc Llechwedd mawr and Foel Grafiau then after this top went onto Pen y Darren, Pen Creigiau'r Llan and Banc yr Wyn.WAYNE ROWLETT26/05/2018
The 3rd top of an anticlockwise circuit of 8 Deweys, starting with Banc yr Wyn & finishing on Moel y Llyn. From Foel Grafiau, headed N. along forest road & then a short climb to unmarked summit. Continued to Pen y Darren. (PM)gerrybowes04/07/2017
An easy diversion with GB off the main track.bolton04/07/2017
9/13 (Banc Bwlchygarreg/Banc Yrwyn/Esgair Fraith/Foel Grafiau West Top/Foel Grafiau/Bryn Moel/Mynydd Bychan/Foel Uchaf/Foel Fras/Creigiau Bwlch Hyddgen/Pen Y Darren (Moel Hydden)/Pen Creigiau'r Llan North Top/Pen Creigiau'r Llan)Fergalh13/05/2017
Nice walk round from the forest south to Drosgol via an almost impassible ROW which is an old leat. Then up the slope on better ground. Dropped down to the ruin of Drosgol Farm, then over the bridge and up Banc Llechwedd Fawr, then north past Hyddgen, Bryn Moel, Foel Graffiau and Foel Fras before dropping down onto a heavily eroded bridleway back to the car.Neolith11/05/2017
Easy detour from the forest road to the east with just one fence to cross. Alan Moore08/04/2017
Parked in passing place/layby near to where Glyndwr's Way leaves the no through road at 775960. Round of Pen y Darren, Creigiau Bwlch Hyddgen, Foel Fras, Foel Uchaf, Foel Grafiau, FG W.Top, Bryn Moel and Mynydd Bychan.clivevilla24/03/2017
Long round from below RhiwgamColin Crawford22/06/2015
Parked at old mines then off in a counter clockwise loop through Ban yr Wyn (out and back), Foel Grafiau, Foel Fras, Moel Hyddgen, Pen Creigiau'r Llan, Banc Bwlchygarreg, West Top (Or East Top of next), Moel y Llyn then returned past old level after missing higher row. Note new footbridge just north of ford before Lluest-y-rhos (noticed after fording it). Open ground to south of Pen Creigiau'r Llan (shown as forest) but need to negotiate barbed wire. Overcast all day.SS17/05/2015
Continuation of walk from Pen y Darren and Creigiau Bwlch Hyddgen. Followed track south, then short stiff climb west onto flat summit (no cairn).Man of Kernow118/05/2014
just one fence to go over from track at 767 925.dicky13/07/2013
Mq/ds/scquartley02/09/2012
Parked by gravel bin at foot of two hairpin bends 775963. Zig zags on the lane, through farmyard following Glyndwr's markers. Steeply up across wet fields to follow the edge of a felled forest area up to top corner. Broad track with water running down. At the top, a gate led to a level and contoured bridal way for 2 miles around dull hills through several gates and finally up rough moor to the top at 11.40. No view - mist. (3 1/2 hrs.)arranc02/09/2012
Vaguely like Martin. Parked at Talbontdrain. Walked down road and took the forestry track. Thought it was a mistake - continued to the end. It was. Finally followed E side of valley on mainly forestry tracks to above waterfall then track and then summit. Fine walk after false start.destaylor09/08/2012
As nobody else will want to copy my route I will not explain it - except to say that I turned Foel Fras into a Fool's Thrash. My only advice - take a map with you.Martin R30/08/2011
From B&B at SN 777 958. Also visited the spot height 529m tops at SN 764 942 and SN 765 919 as well as Foel Uchaf @ 520+m at SN 769 924 (anxious not to have to use up my new hip revisiting resurveyed tops.)summitsup23/07/2011
Managed to drive up the forest tracks and park by the anglers retreat. Akward place to get to.DARRENG14/06/2011
Start ~ 775962. From Moel Hyddgen.steve hudson20/10/2010
petey27/09/2008
Started at Nant-y Pandy cloudy views not goodGez29/08/2008
Plynlimon Dewey bagging, walk 3/4; Glaslyn track 826936 - Clipyn Du - Foel Grafiau - Foel Fras - Moel Hyddgen - Pen Creigiau'r Llan - Moel y Llyn - Banc Bwlchygarreg - Banc yr Wyn - Banc Llechwedd-mawr - Carn Hyddgen - Foel Uchaf - Banc Bugeilyn - car. RHW14/02/1998
Welsh 3000s Logica Mountaineering Club Pete Milne, Jenny Kennishcwrci01/07/1995
Dusty07/08/2023
johnbarnard2505/03/2020
TK27/10/2017
shent15/05/2016
Steve Q01/08/2015
Alex C01/08/2015
Alan Whatley27/12/2014
mae26/07/2014
stevent080926/05/2014
wychwood05/05/2014
chalky195325/08/2013
iaindbrown08/04/2013
kanderson05/03/2013
andrew brown13/01/2013
Andy West26/07/2012
maknipe17/04/2012