| Name: | Y Groes Fagl |
| Hill number: | 2107 |
| Height: | 659m / 2162ft |
| Parent (Ma): | 19413 Foel Cedig |
| County/UA: | Gwynedd |
| Topographical area: | WN10 Aran-idris |
| SMC/RHB section: | 30E: Bala to Welshpool |
| Nuttall/Wainwright area: | The Berwyns |
| Catchment: | Catchment Boundaries, Dee (Flint), Severn |
| Watershed: | Severn Estuary, Cardiff to Cape Wrath, Liverpool Bay |
| Class: | Nuttall, Bridge (N,Bg) |
| Grid ref: | SH 98852 29006 |
| Summit feature: | ground 3m S of pole |
| Drop: | 15.5m |
| Col: | 643.5m SH 9882 2876  |
| OS map sheet(s): | (1:50k) 125 (1:25k) 255 |
| Observations: | ground 20m N and 20m S about 30cm lower |
| Survey: | Leica NA730/Trimble GeoXH 6000 Survey of Y Groes Fagl.pdf |
| Change log: | show changes for this hill entry |
| GPS data: | show GPS entries for this hill |
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| Logged Descriptions (logged by 330 users, only the latest 50 shown - Show all) | By | Date of Ascent |
| 49 | MarkFrench | 17/08/2024 |
| Parked in the small quarry parking area at the bottom of the pass before the bridge, NE of Foel Goch. Nuttall 7.5 route over Foel Goch, Trum y Gwrgedd, Foel y Geifr, down to the col, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog N Top, Cefn Gwyntog, Cefn Gwyntog Far N Top, Foel Cedig and Y Groes Fagl. Cloudy, blustery day and not as wet underfoot as was expecting. With Gillian. | richard69 | 16/07/2024 |
| 18.5 miles 2739ft walk, start at Rhiwargor waterfall carpark, walk up Afon Eiddew on left side of waterfall, follow river to old building follow track and lane to Pen y Cerrig Duon, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Foel Cedig, Y Groes Fagi, return to Cyrniau Nod, Cefn Gwyntog, Garreg Wen, Rhwng y Ddwynant and Moel y nant to forest track and lane back to carpark. | stephenbuda | 25/05/2024 |
| Third Nuttall of the day, easy going at this point using the forestry track....things were about to get a lot tougher. | simocity | 15/10/2023 |
| Walk 7.5 | KatyT | 12/05/2023 |
| With: solo; Nuttalls walk 7.5. Good dry day with light wind and high cloud | Ian Baines | 09/10/2022 |
| Updated Nuttall 7.5 from Bwlch yr Hwch: Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd (Trum y Gwrgedd), Foel y Geifr, Pen y Cerrig Duon, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog North Top, Cefn Gwyntog, Cefn Gwyntog Far North Top, Foel Cedig and Y Groes Fagl. Haxy, dull day, so there weren't even good views to distract from the relentless trudge through heather. | Lazylizzie | 03/09/2022 |
| 8th and last mountain of the day, again keeping to the track, you can clearly see a 6ft post on the top, as you come to a left bend where a path goes to the right, follow this right path for about 150 yards to find the top. Come back to the track and follow this through the forest back to where you started. This was approx. 3 mile walk. | Buckleymon | 15/08/2022 |
| Although an insignificant top, probably the best view of the group because Snowdon isn't impeded by other peaks in front of it. | Nick Canute | 05/03/2022 |
| Cwm Hirnant road - Foel Goch - Trum y Gwragedd - Foel y Geifr - Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw - Stac Rhos - Cefn Gwyntog - Cefn Gwyntog N Top - Cefn Gwyntog Far N Top - Foel Cedig - Y Groes Fagl - Cwm Hirnant road. | Mark Jackson | 24/10/2021 |
| https://www.strava.com/activities/6146021730/overview | rhif7 | 21/10/2021 |
| https://www.strava.com/activities/5914433314 | Sleepwa1ker | 03/09/2021 |
| Circular 13.7 mile route of serious heather bashing from Aber-Hirnant Picnic area. Foel Goch, Trum y Gwregedd, Foel y Geifr, Pen Cerrig Duon Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Foel Cedig, Bwlch y Groes-fagl and Foel-y-ddinas. The intial very steep ascent to Foel Goch from the road should not be underestimated! | Gwastadros | 12/06/2021 |
| From Hirnant Pass to W, using good track. Y Groes Fagl, Cefn Gwyntog, Stac Rhos, Pen y Cerrig Duon. | PGCE | 04/02/2021 |
| Rain, rain, rain! A walk out along the track, picking off tops on the way out and back. With B and R. | jenx | 17/12/2020 |
| Two day hillbagging and wildcamp trip from Hirnant pass. | Taz38 | 06/08/2019 |
| from quarry hirnant then nutall route inc foel cedig and deleted nutalls and other minor tops back through penllyn forest 9 hrs | underhill | 24/05/2019 |
| From Bala to Lake Vyrnwy Road SH94604 27326, via Pen y Cerrig Duon, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog North Top, Cefn Gwyntog & Cyrniau Nod, Then onto, Foel Credig. Return via mountain track. | Westdenewalker | 29/04/2019 |
| 12th and final summit of the day then took a wrong turning after Ystrad-Y-groes cottage as if the day wasn't tough enough 14.7 miles in total solo | colinfielding | 28/02/2019 |
| 29km circuit from Pennant with jonglew, starting with 497m P5 Pen Cerrig, my final summit on John Gillham's list and a nice hill, on a dreich day. Then tussocky to Fagl's fencepost summit, and on to the two SubDodds to the NW | RHW | 24/11/2018 |
| From Foel Cedig, pausing for sandwiches en-route. Back along track to car, meeting Gill and Alex C on the way. | Wycombe Wanderer | 24/11/2018 |
| With SG from parking at start of track from SW. | Smudge | 24/11/2018 |
| With Trefor. Parked to west at top of pass and followed track firstly to Foel Cedig then on to bag this one. Snow showers and lying snow. Cold with low cloud base and no views except for one short break in the clouds | mike.hoult | 21/11/2018 |
| A selection of Berwyns in company of (for some) Lindsay. Tops I completed were Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Foel Cedig and Y Groes Fagl. | knarf | 14/10/2018 |
| Revisited Y Groes Fagl while claiming Foel Cedig from Hirnant Pass as the new Marilyn in this area. 13km in 3 hours. | silveracorn_alan | 25/09/2018 |
| Foel Cedig > Y Groes Fagl > Trum y Sarn > Cyrniau Nod > Cyrniau Nod South-East Top > Cyrniau Nod > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw SW Top > Pen y Cerrig Duon from GR: SH 94614 27328 | ronaldo333 | 22/09/2018 |
| Foel Cedig > Y Groes Fagl > Trum y Sarn > Cyrniau Nod > Cyrniau Nod South-East Top > Cyrniau Nod > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw SW Top > Pen y Cerrig Duon from GR: SH 94614 27328 | Hippster | 22/09/2018 |
| Did the Berwyns last year so just wanted to visit the newly promoted Foel Cedig. Parked the car at SH 95240 29987, walked along the road South to the track at SH 94627 27327 and then followed the track all the way back to the car. Also stopped off at Y Groes Fagl as it's the easiest of the other tops. Really wet today. | tsharp | 14/09/2018 |
| From Hirnant Pass to W, using good track. Foel Cedig (shortly after assuming the Marilyn summit status - probably didn't visit 19 years previously when climbing Cyrniau Nod), Y Groes Fagl, then Stac Rhos on return. | RobertP | 02/09/2018 |
| From summit of Bala road: Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw / Stac Rhos / Y Groes Fagl / Cyrniau Nod / Cefn Gwyntog. Then: Foel y Geifr / Trum y Gwragedd / Foel Goch. Sunny. | Winterfloodian | 26/07/2018 |
| Followed the Nuttall's route. Lovely sunny day with a nice cool breeze. | Herbert Anchovy | 23/06/2018 |
| No 5 of a round of hills based on Nuttall 7.5. Glad to see this one as the heather bashing was beginning to tell! Return to start down track. A good day out. | MichaelF | 24/11/2017 |
| 5/11 (Pen Y Cerrig Duon/Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw/Stac Rhos/Cyrniau Nod/Y Groes Fagl/Penllyn Forest Top/Foel y Geifir/Cefn Gwyntog North Top/Cefn Gwyntog/Garreg Wen/Rhwngy Ddwynant) | Fergalh | 17/06/2017 |
| a round of mainly Nuttalls from The Hirmant Pass, 7.5, solo, on a blustery day | Lou | 11/06/2017 |
| Walked the route in section 7.5 of the Nuttalls book. Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd, Foel y Geifr , Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Cyrniau Nod, Y Groes Fagl. People call these the boring Berwyns but I don't agree. How many of the hundreds of thousands who climb Snowdon and Cader Idris each year would persevere with this walk. It's a real challenge and there are some good views if the weather holds. A very steep descent to Foel Goch reminded me how unfit I've become. Great views at the top, could see Arenig Fawr, Aran Fawddy and Snowdon in the distance inbetween the snow showers. The summit of Trum y Gwragedd was tantalisingly 40 foot on the other side of a barb wire fence. I decided not to be a purist but as I walked on the guilt gnawed at me and, 200 metres later at a corner post, I decided to leave my backpack, cross over and go back to the summit. My gloves and trousers already had holes in them and I'm not sure I'd have risked it if I had been wearing new exp | tsharp | 21/03/2017 |
| with roger | Darren-443 | 18/02/2017 |
| Solo walk during a weekend trip to Llangollen for a friend's Birthday. Aber Hirnant - Foel Cwm-Sian Llwyd - along ridge via all Nuttalls to Pen y Cerrig Duon - road - Foel y Geifr - north along ridge - steep descent by forest to road - road back to Aber Hirnant. A rather dull and heathery set of hills! | AGWilliamson | 18/12/2016 |
| With G. Mostly Nuttalls' Route from cattle grid at Bwlch yr Hwch > Foel Goch > Trum y Gwrgedd > Foel y Geifr > Pen y Cerrig Duon > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw > Stac Rhos > Cefn Gwyntog (faint path from gate near Cefn Gwyntog N Top) > Cefn Gwyntog North Top > Cyrniau Nod > Y Groes Fagl > start via Cwm Gwyn | RT1970 | 17/08/2016 |
| KeithByTheC | 30/07/2016 | |
| Climbed with Chris from Llangynog via Foel Cwm-Sian Llwyd. Continued on forestry track to road. | dhbond | 16/07/2016 |
| Solo From Cyrniau and on to Penllyn Forrest top 551 | Aimless Rambler | 29/05/2016 |
| Cyrniau Nod, Y Groes Fagl, Stac Rhos, Pen y Bocyn Trefielw, Pen y Cerrig Duon. | tim747 | 20/04/2016 |
| Nuttalls walk 7.5. 8th out of 8 for the day, before the long walk down through the forest. | Crib Goch | 13/04/2016 |
| Nuttall Walk WN 7.5 The Western Berwyns from the foot of Hirnant Pass (952300), visiting Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd, Foel y Geifr, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Cyrniau Nod and Y Groes Fagl. 18.4km with 850m asecnt in 6H30m. (S) | silveracorn_alan | 30/03/2016 |
| With Cyrniau Nod and Jenx | nordicstar | 28/12/2015 |
| Nuttall Walk 7.5: Foel Goch [The Berwyns] - Trum y Gwragedd - Foel y Geifr - Pen y Cerrig Duon - Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw SW Top - Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw - Stac Rhos - Cefn Gwyntog North Top - Cefn Gwyntog - Cyrniau Nod - Y Groes Fagl | ronaldo333 | 14/06/2015 |
| gweler log Cyrniau Nod see Cyrniau Nod log | Dewi Prysor | 19/04/2015 |
| cross the fence get back to the road follow it till you get to the junction on the track and follow to the top then back to the track to follow the track through the forest | Aristotle Chip | 11/04/2015 |
| Blessed path | Ruth | 09/09/2014 |
| From Cyrniau Nod, returned by fence to main ridge track. Along this for short distance until it turned left. Carried stright on over grass for gentle climb to summit pole. | Amplifier | 05/09/2014 |