Name:Trum y Gwragedd [Trum y Gwrgedd]
Hill number:2124
Height:611.1m / 2005ft
Parent (Ma):2104  Esgeiriau Gwynion [Foel Rhudd]
RHB Section:30E: Bala to Welshpool
Nuttall/Wainwright area:The Berwyns
County/UA:Gwynedd
Catchment:Dee (Flint)
Class:Nuttall, Subsimm, Buxton & Lewis
(N,sSim,BL)
Grid ref:SH 94117 28404
Summit feature:no feature: ground a few metres W of fence
Drop:24.4m
Col:586.7m  SH 9394 2789  
OS map sheet(s):(1:50k) 125
(1:25k) OL23E
Observations:flat featureless summit area
Survey:Abney level/Leica 530
Survey of Trum Y Gwrgedd and Foel Goch (Final).doc
Comments:Alternative name appears on 1:25k map and is a mis-spelling. Col surveyed by Leica RX1250
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Logged Descriptions  (logged by 332 users)ByDate of Ascent
Parked at SH946273 and jumped up on to the ridge to nab the three Nuttalls on this side. Easy walking, even with it being wet under foot, distinct tracks all the way there and back.simocity29/12/2023
See Foel y GeifrPeterb28/08/2023
Walk 7.5KatyT12/05/2023
With: solo; Nuttalls walk 7.5. Good dry day with light wind and high cloudIan Baines09/10/2022
Updated Nuttall 7.5 from Bwlch yr Hwch: Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd (Trum y Gwrgedd), Foel y Geifr, Pen y Cerrig Duon, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog North Top, Cefn Gwyntog, Cefn Gwyntog Far North Top, Foel Cedig and Y Groes Fagl. Haxy, dull day, so there weren't even good views to distract from the relentless trudge through heather.Lazylizzie03/09/2022
Second mountain of the day, nice walk from Foel Goch to the top, there was no marking for the top, just grassy and heathery area.Buckleymon15/08/2022
19miles 4053ft walk. Foel Goch, Trum-Y-Gwrgedd and Foel-Y-Geifr.stephenbuda29/05/2022
Highest point by c.50cm wrong side of barbed wire fence.Jon901803/04/2022
https://www.strava.com/activities/6570272158rhif723/01/2022
Cwm Hirnant road - Foel Goch - Trum y Gwragedd - Foel y Geifr - Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw - Stac Rhos - Cefn Gwyntog - Cefn Gwyntog N Top - Cefn Gwyntog Far N Top - Foel Cedig - Y Groes Fagl - Cwm Hirnant road.Mark Jackson24/10/2021
From top of pass, Foel Geifr, Trum y Gwragedd, Foel Goch. Bit boggy but not too much heather.Chris Williams10/07/2021
Circular 13.7 mile route of serious heather bashing from Aber-Hirnant Picnic area. Foel Goch, Trum y Gwregedd, Foel y Geifr, Pen Cerrig Duon Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Foel Cedig, Bwlch y Groes-fagl and Foel-y-ddinas. The intial very steep ascent to Foel Goch from the road should not be underestimated!Gwastadros12/06/2021
TD & CThis Dog19/09/2020
From road, opposite track. ATV to Foel y Geifr then path along ridge. Very wet underfoot.PGCE19/08/2020
Parked by road and straight lined to Foel y Geifr. Due north to Foel Goch, descent to road back to car. Up and along track to Pen y Boncyn and the Devil's Mountain 666 (Foel Cedig)andrew.morel11/08/2020
Foel y Geifr, Trum y Gwrgedd & Foel Goch from the summit of the Hirnant road with Rufus. Parking opposite track entrance, over gate and a rough/boggy atv track most of the way to the trig point of Foel y Geifr then track along ridge to other 2 summits, returned same way. Flies were awful, must be something to do with the location. Great view of Crib yr Aran.jacobrichmond11/08/2020
Nuttall route 7.5Neil Midgley17/09/2019
From Foel Goch on easy ridge. Then return to car on road to east. With B and R.jenx27/06/2019
https://www.strava.com/activities/4195078697Sleepwa1ker01/06/2019
from quarry hirnant then nutall route inc foel cedig and deleted nutalls and other minor tops back through penllyn forest 9 hrsunderhill24/05/2019
From Bala to Lake Vyrnwy Road, SH95237 29981. Via, Pen y Cerrig Duon & Foel Geifr, Then onto Foel Goch.Westdenewalker01/05/2019
following Nuttalls route 7.5 solo wet and misty daycolinfielding28/02/2019
14:00, rising traverse from high point in road, reasonably easy avoiding heather as much as possible. On to Foel Goch.Wycombe Wanderer26/11/2018
G,G,JIdris26/11/2018
From Hirnault Valley ascended the ridge to the west and summited Foel Goch, Trum y Gwrgedd and Foel y Geifr.knarf30/10/2018
Along ridge from Foel Goch. Jumped over the fence to summit post.Ich bin ein hill bagger.HH30/08/2018
From Foel y Geifr then on to Foel Goch. Good trod all the way.Eddie21/08/2018
From summit of Bala road: Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw / Stac Rhos / Y Groes Fagl / Cyrniau Nod / Cefn Gwyntog. Then: Foel y Geifr / Trum y Gwragedd / Foel Goch. Sunny.Winterfloodian26/07/2018
From top of Hirnant passDewi Prysor24/07/2018
Followed the Nuttall's route. Lovely sunny day with a nice cool breeze.Herbert Anchovy23/06/2018
3rd ascentthenomad10/04/2018
3/9 (Foel Cwm(Sian Llwyn)/Foel y Geifir/Trum y Gwragedd(Trum y Gwredd)/Foel Goch/Mynydd Nodol/Boncyn Foel Bacg/Cefn Ddu/Llysy Frenhwes/Foel Gasnach)Fergalh20/08/2017
Walked the route in section 7.5 of the Nuttalls book. Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd, Foel y Geifr , Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Cyrniau Nod, Y Groes Fagl. People call these the boring Berwyns but I don't agree. How many of the hundreds of thousands who climb Snowdon and Cader Idris each year would persevere with this walk. It's a real challenge and there are some good views if the weather holds. A very steep descent to Foel Goch reminded me how unfit I've become. Great views at the top, could see Arenig Fawr, Aran Fawddy and Snowdon in the distance inbetween the snow showers. The summit of Trum y Gwragedd was tantalisingly 40 foot on the other side of a barb wire fence. I decided not to be a purist but as I walked on the guilt gnawed at me and, 200 metres later at a corner post, I decided to leave my backpack, cross over and go back to the summit. My gloves and trousers already had holes in them and I'm not sure I'd have risked it if I had been wearing new exptsharp21/03/2017
finished the year with solo ascent of Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd and Foel y Geifr on a dull windy day.Lou31/12/2016
Solo walk during a weekend trip to Llangollen for a friend's Birthday. Aber Hirnant - Foel Cwm-Sian Llwyd - along ridge via all Nuttalls to Pen y Cerrig Duon - road - Foel y Geifr - north along ridge - steep descent by forest to road - road back to Aber Hirnant. A rather dull and heathery set of hills!AGWilliamson18/12/2016
With G. Mostly Nuttalls' Route from cattle grid at Bwlch yr Hwch > Foel Goch > Trum y Gwrgedd > Foel y Geifr > Pen y Cerrig Duon > Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw > Stac Rhos > Cefn Gwyntog (faint path from gate near Cefn Gwyntog N Top) > Cefn Gwyntog North Top > Cyrniau Nod > Y Groes Fagl > start via Cwm GwynRT197017/08/2016
KeithByTheC30/07/2016
Solo. From Foel Goch and then on to Foel y GeifrAimless Rambler29/05/2016
Nuttalls walk 7.5. Top just west of fence - now marked by two old wooden stakesCrib Goch13/04/2016
with roger and kelly weather wasnt to bad views were goodDarren-44310/04/2016
Nuttall Walk WN 7.5 The Western Berwyns from the foot of Hirnant Pass (952300), visiting Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd, Foel y Geifr, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Cyrniau Nod and Y Groes Fagl. 18.4km with 850m asecnt in 6H30m. (S)silveracorn_alan30/03/2016
14 mile hard circular walk from the cattle grid at the bottom of the pass, used ill-defined footpaths up onto Pen Y Boncyn Trefeilw, then along lane to Stac Rhos up the lane to Foel Cedig and Cyrniau Nod, back down taking the pretty much pathless ridge to Cefn Gwyntog, descended and forded the stream west above the waterfall, followed lane to road, then followed lane through forest up onto the moors, struggled through hideous pathless heather up onto Cefn Coch, then across more heather to Foel Y Geifr, then down little path onto Trum Y Gwrgedd and Foel Goch back down to car with half an hour of daylight left.DanTrig13/03/2016
Nuttall Walk 7.5: Foel Goch [The Berwyns] - Trum y Gwragedd - Foel y Geifr - Pen y Cerrig Duon - Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw SW Top - Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw - Stac Rhos - Cefn Gwyntog North Top - Cefn Gwyntog - Cyrniau Nod - Y Groes Faglronaldo33314/06/2015
From trig pointemily24/05/2015
nice views of the aransAristotle Chip11/04/2015
Nuttall walkRuth09/09/2014
My last three Berwyns: - a delightful evening walk along the ridge west of the Hirnant valley, having parked at the top of the Bwlch.ruthatlast18/07/2014
Followed the Nuttalls route apart from Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Cyrniau Nod all done as out and back from the track. Each with a handy cairn to indicate where to leave the track. Latter part of the day it poured with rain and cloud came down.axe.stephen28/05/2014
A very very long and tiring day starting at Llangynog and then after Moel Dimoel, Cyrniau Nod, Cefn Gwyntog, Stac Rhos, Pen Y boncyn Trefeilw, Pen YCerrig duon, up the very steep sides of Foel Goch and along the easy ridge to the summit. I climbed over the fence to the West as it did look like the ground was higher there so I walked around a bit to make sure. This is a lovely ridge walk, next hill is Foel Y Geifr.Dazingdale06/05/2014
Followed Nuttalls Western Berwyns walk with a few additions.rhalstead16/03/2014
MAINLY FOLLOWED NUTTALLS WALK 7.5 FOR THE WESTERN BERWYNS. PARKED AT THE FOOT OF THE HIRNANT PASS AND WENT STRAIGHT UP VERY STEEP FOEL GOCH, THEN EASY WALK ALONG THE RIDGE TO TRUM Y GWRAGEDD AND FOEL Y GEIFR. STEEP HEATHER DOWN TO TOP OF PASS THEN ALONG THE TRACK, POPPING OFF IT TO DO PEN Y BONCYN TREFEILW AND STAC RHOS. RETURNED TO TRACK BETWEEN ALL TOPS AND FOUND FAINT PATH OUT TO CEFN GWYNTOG. FOLLOWED FENCE TO CIRNIAU NOD AND FINISHED WITH THE EASY GROES FAGL. BACK THROUGH FOREST TO CAR - ANOTHER WARM SUNNY DAY OUT FROM BALA.BURGESS08/08/2013
see entry for foel goch 2123dicky22/06/2013
Nine-Nuttall circuit clockwise from Aber Hirnant, with Ruthdavidpettit8405/05/2013
An easy walk from Foel Goch.JohnStoneham05/05/2013
Wet along the top. 7th of 8 for the day.bolton08/11/2012
CJM08/11/2012
Parked in an old quarry at the foot of the Hirnant Pass - From the quarry followed fence up to the plateau - Foel Goch - Trum y Gwragedd - Foel y Geifr - E. across heather and then grass to the minor road close to the summit of the Hirnant Pass - Walked down road back to car. (JL)gerrybowes10/10/2012
Loely sunny dayjohnjennison05/09/2012
Easy walk over from Foel Goch as part of Nuttall route - unmarked top but good views as walk along the ridge.woodse02/07/2011
As Nuttall's 7.5Westdenewalker07/06/2011
Northern Hirnants 2 days / 22 miles. Start Finish Bala Wild camp in heather, very windy Rhiwaedog-uwch-afon, Foel Goch, Foel y Geifr, Pen y Cerrig Duon, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Foel Cedig, Bwich y Gross-fagl, Foel Cwn-Sian,fellowsa20/05/2011
On my way back to SH946273, 6 Nuttalls done, one 2 go. Pretty tired, and disappointed to be unable to see Llyn Tegid.huwthomas14/05/2011
Bit of a scramble up from SH946273 but easy walking along the ridge. http://www.heavyhorses.co.uk/humpsheavyhorses27/04/2011
Part of Nuttall 7.5 route - easy tromp from Foel GochDavid Gradwell25/09/2010
With Pendabeorwulf03/07/2010
catch upkevroberts01/01/2010
Not real date - no log kept. Foel Goch, Trum y Gwragedd, Foel y Geifr, Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw, Stac Rhos, Cefn Gwyntog, Cyrniau Nod, Y Groes Faglijpowell10/07/2009
2nd hill of the Nuttall route we were following a pleasant walk from Foel Goch. We could not find anything marking the top, so the photo was taken by what looked the highest point. Nice clear sunny day so nice views. On now to Foel y Geifr.SteveClay15/03/2009
Solo. Long Berwyns walk. richardsun04/05/2008
Unmarked top to west of fence. Parked at 946273, room for 4/5 cars. First Foel y Geifr then Trum y Gergedd then Foel Goch with Susan and back a simlar way. Path on ridge but none up and down. Sunny March day with one quick snowfall, wet under foot!Glenelg19/03/2008
Top non descript but good views either side of ridge.alwaysinshorts06/07/2007
an easy out and back over three hirnant hills. we cheated a little, managing to drive all the way up from near bala to farm buildings at rhyd wen. from there up forestry tracks and up a firebreak onto open hillside to foel goch.stig_nest15/06/2007
Wet miserable day but 8 tops.Emlyno28/01/2007
From Foel y Geifr.peter4lc05/05/2006
With TonyStuart Hyde28/04/2006
Climbed as part of route 7.5 in the guide bookdianepick26/06/2005
topgigglejon15/08/2002
BogtrotPeteF21/07/2001
petey30/09/2000
GGTIdris06/05/2000
From Hirnant pass.Marshsand25/06/1999
andrewcoles09/04/1999
Galltywenallt20/03/1999
Solo run. Second of eight peaks. Lovely peaceful hills, not boring at all.mikejacobs14/03/1998
Second ascent.thenomad15/08/1997
see Foel y Geifr logpwheeler09/04/1996
Start ~ 945272. Went W through the heather to Foel y Geifr then N to Trum y Gwragedd and Foel Goch, and returned same. With John Dummelow.steve hudson30/09/1995
2nd visit to theses Berwyn tops with Rob Small to do Bridges for him and wanted outlying Nuttall for me of Cefn Gwybtog(1 mile out and back from main track) Another wet day after camping at Bala.Chris Pearson13/11/1994
R Richard Tait12/10/1994
First ascent.thenomad22/04/1991
Along fence and path line cant miss itRhayader_wander15/07/1990
Date unknown RHW01/01/1990
from Foel y Geifr. Trudge downhill by fence and up to top. Crossed fence to highest point. to Foel Goch.arranc03/03/1988
Not in Bridge's ListPeterdunscar24/05/1986
Yet more rough heather as rain began to fall as I struggled from the trig on Foel y Geifr out over this top to Foel goch -a wanted Bridge.Chris Pearson12/06/1984
Followed Nuttall route 7.5 heather, boggy and boring- typical berwyns :) solo walk in the rainWoolly Hattieblank
From SH 946 273 tidying up a clutch of Nuttals. 1996?summitsupblank
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