Name:Moel yr Wden [Bwlch y Bi]
Hill number:3368
Height:572.2m / 1877ft
Parent (Ma):2057  Moel Llyfnant
SMC/RHB Section:30D: Barmouth to Betws-y-Coed and Bala
Nuttall/Wainwright area:The Arenigs
Topographical area:WN05 Siabod-arenig
Catchment:Catchment Boundaries, Dee (Flint), Mawddach
Watershed:Cardigan Bay, Liverpool Bay
Class:Dodd (500-599m), Dewey
Grid ref:SH 78016 35622
Summit feature:ground by cairn
Col:538.1m  SH 77981 35395  
OS map sheet(s):(1:50k) 124
(1:25k) OL18E OL23E
Observations:drop surveyed as 34.1m
Survey:Leica NA730/Leica 530
Survey of Moel yr Wden final.doc
Second Survey of Moel yr Wden (Final).doc
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12.1 miles 2105ft walk, start at Llyn Tryweryn layby, to Moel Llynant, Gallt-Y-Darren,Foel Boeth, Moel-Y-Slates and Moel Yr Wden.stephenbuda19/04/2024
From Gallt y Daren, turned round and headed back to car. Appreciated the mountain scenery all around - the outline of Rhinog Fawr particularly impressive. Raced against the soft, orange sun to see if I could get to the summit of Gallt y Daren before it set behind Moel Ysgyfarnogod and I just won. Lovely end to the day. 5.9km, 211m, 1:25.Wycombe Wanderer08/10/2023
Like others - Park at Pont Blaen-lliw - up track and through forest. At end of track turn right at pine with red streamers to enter a wet ride leading to a gate onto open moorland. Boggy grass to the summit.Moorponder15/10/2022
Penultimate hill, very wet underfoot all day.colinfielding08/10/2022
Parked on a wide grass verge near the gate 80316 33599 and followed the track to the trees north of the Afon Lliw after the track finish's it's only a few meters through the widley spaced trees to reach a break taking you to the open hill side, up to the fence line and over to the summit. Two hours returning the same way and Twelve and half mile in total after continuing onto Foel Ystrodur Fawr, Foel Boeth and Moel Ymenyn.WAYNE ROWLETT19/09/2022
From the summit of the road pass (Grid Ref 783 333) with its 531m elevation. A revisit to the ridge of Foel Boeth, Gallt y Daren, Moel Yr Wden (Bwlch y Bi), and Moel y Slates. Main reason was to bag Moel yr Wden as a Dewey, as just visited it in passing when on the Nuttall walk 13.2 in 2016. 7.6km there and back, with only 270m ascent, taking 2h 20m.silverwolf_alan08/08/2022
Coming back from Arenig Fawr hike.Buckleymon25/02/2022
From Pont Blaen Lliw. Limited parking for one/two cars. Excellent track through forest. At end of track there is a pole on the right where a ride goes through the trees and out onto open tussocky hillside to top. Fine views.Campbell Singer13/07/2021
From layby on the B4391: Moel Llechwedd, Arenig Fawr, Arenig Fawr Sounth Top, Carreg Y Diocyn, Arenig Fawr South Ridge Top, Craig Y Bychau, Moel Llyfnant, Foel Boeth, Gailt Y Daren, Bwlch Y Bi, and Moel Y Slates. Warm day, views would have been better with less haze. Very tough walk, lots of boggy pathless parts.Lazylizzie12/06/2021
From Pont Blaen Lliw, easy forestry track then firebreak followed by a short marshy bit up to Moel y Slates, then on to Bwlch y Bi. Returned initially by the the non existent RoW but then went back into trees at Waen Blaen Lliw to avoid what looked the worst boggy bit. Perfect solitude up here- saw no one.stig_nest30/05/2021
Nuttall Walk 6.1 with R. Started in the fog but turned into a really nice day.Dan Baddeley29/05/2021
Moel y Slates & Moel yr Wden from A4214 Trawsfynydd-Bala road with Rufus. Parking just before house on left when driving west, permissive path gate locked with bike lock but no sign. Track through Penllyn Forest and boggy tracks along the fence leading to both summits, returned the same way. Heavy persistent rain and mostly in the cloud base.jacobrichmond27/07/2020
3/4 (Foel Boeth/Gallt y Daren/Moel Ywden (Bwlch y Bi)/Moel y Slates)Fergalh16/06/2019
A horseshoe walk taking in Arenig Fawr, Moel Llyfnant and Foel Boeth. Parked in layby on B4391.Claireb 18/05/2019
full day on southern arenigs, arenig fawr, south top pt 712 carreg y doocyn, all moss tps, moel llyfnant, foel boeth, gallt y darren and back over bwlch y bi and moel y slatesunderhill06/05/2019
SoloAimless Rambler26/05/2017
REPEATSteve Q21/01/2017
Nuttall Walk 70: WN 13.2 Arenig Fawr from West of Arenig Village. Visiting Nuttalls Arenig Fawr, Arenig Fawr South Top, Arenig Fawr South Ridge Top, Moel Llyfnant, Foel Boeth, and Gallt y Daren. Also passed by over Moel yr Wden (Bwlch y Bi) and Moel y Slates. 19km with 1060m ascent, taking 7 hours.silveracorn_alan06/10/2016
Continuation of walk from Gallt y Daren. Followed fence down to boggy bwlch and steeply up to summit cairn. To return, followed RoW (no trace on ground) over marshes of Waen Blaen-lliw to stile, then picked up track south down the valley back to the car. Solo.Man of Kernow118/06/2016
Parked 803336, room for a few cars. Followed track up through forestry. At end of track took the ride on the right through forest which comes out at wooden gate. Across the fairly wet bit to corner of field where fences meet, across 2 fences (2nd has barbed wire)to top(Moel y Slates). Then along fence line to Bwlch y Bi. Returned back via forest.Rob5030/05/2016
Nuttall walk 6.1: Moel Llechwedd - Arenig Fawr - Arenig Fawr South Top - Carreg y Diocyn - Arenig Fawr South Ridge Top - Arenig Fawr South Ridge Far South Top  - Moel Llyfnant - Foel Boeth - Gallt y Daren - Moel yr Wden - Moel y Slatesronaldo33302/04/2016
Very boggy after you exit the forest, which is a shame because it's a cracking view.DARRENG07/08/2015
with Frank on a lovely spring day. Nuttalls 6.1 with a few additions. Poor old Bonzo.Lou22/03/2015
With G. Nuttalls' route 6.1 from SH 823 392 > Moel LLechwedd > Arenig Fawr > Moel Llyfnant > Foel Boeth > Gallt y Daren > Moel yr Wden [Bwlch y Bi] > Moel y Slates > dismantled railway back to start.RT197020/04/2014
parked easily near gate to sse. Good track then path pretty much non existant but line east to follow - fence. Bit boggy particularly from trees onward. Suggest staying on track until about 300m from forest edge just before derelict building. Then to forest corner. If been wet wellies could be handy.destaylor14/04/2014
Parked at GR783 333. Walked steeply up grass slope to Foel Boeth then followed fence to Gallt yr Daren. Continued following fence dropping about 60m then climbing up to summit of Moel yr Wden. Returned by same route. With SH and Ron.wombourne02/04/2014
Start ~ 779333. Walked up Foel Boeth and Gallt y Darren and then on to Moel yr Wden. With Wombourne & Ron.steve hudson02/04/2014
Loosely followed the Nuttalls Arenig Fawr route with a few additions.rhalstead17/03/2014
From Gallt y DarenJohnStoneham27/06/2013
Parked above Pont y Gain, where snow had blocked the road. Continued up road, then track to Hafod-y-gareg and to end of track. Struggled up deep snow handrailing wall and stream to wall junction, Gallt y Daren, Bwlch y Bi, Moel y Slates and back to Foel Boeth. Followed wall SE/S to road and back. Overcast day with cloud on the ridge. Snow underfoot. DofE gold future route recce. Solorichard6928/03/2013
Climbed from road to south via Gallt y Daren.chriswatson14/03/2013
One mile W. of Arenig village on minor road off A4212 - Path by disused railway & quarry - Up path by wall - Moel Llechwedd - Arenig Fawr - Arenig Fawr S. Top - Arenig Fawr S. Ridge Top - Moel Llyfnant - Foel Boeth - Gallt y Daren - Moel yr Wden (Bwlch y Bi) - Moel y Slates - Down path by fence & then across moor - Along disused railway line - Car. (JL)gerrybowes05/09/2012
From road to south following fence line including the two Nuttalls.clivevilla10/01/2012
On descent from Gallt y Daren, by the Nuttalls' recommended routedavidpettit8430/07/2011
From near Arenig hamlet in a clockwise loop. Arenig Fawr is good hill, but the gem was Moel Llyfnant which is very shapely. The western hills are just a slog through bog!SS26/09/2010
Easy bag towards end of this Nuttall route.Dugswell227/05/2010
Parked at 8028533554 spaces a number of cars. Up the road and across the bog to Foel Boeth then to Galit y Daren onward via Moel yr Wden to Moel Llyfnant with Mary. A pleasant round trip but some deep bog in places in the col with Arenig Fawr.Glenelg07/03/2010
Not real date - no log kept. Moel Llechwedd, Arenig Fawr (and south top and south ridge top), Moel Llyfnant, Foel Boeth, Gallt y Daren, Moel yr Wden, Moel y Slatesijpowell10/07/2009
Doing Nuttles 6.1 walkdavefh10/05/2009
Climbed on the way down from Gallt y DarenFather Ted28/05/2006
with TonyStuart Hyde03/04/2005
Welsh Nuttall walk 6.1David Evans23/10/2001
pleasant summit on boggy ridge;. road summit to SE RHW29/11/1998
see log for Gallt y Darenpwheeler27/09/1997
First of several fenceside rises en route back to the car on the Nutall Arenig routeRhayader_wander11/05/1991